I think you are assuming that the Legacy use of a "Title" either prefix or 
suffix, must be present at birth. From where or how you get to that assumption, 
I don't know but this is straight from the Legacy Help file:

"Titles, both prefix and suffix, include Jr., Sr., Rev., Major, General, King 
of England, etc.  "

If someone were doing a genealogical file that included Martin Luther King, I 
hope to think that 99.9% of the population would provide his title as Rev.  If 
I called my doctor "Mister Jones" instead of "Dr. Jones", I think I'd see my 
bill go up.  They seem to be touchy about their titles.

Brian in California


-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 9:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Treatment of Historic "Surnames"

Brian,

I believe Jenny to be correct. These academic awards and, eg. peerages awarded 
during a lifetime, cannot be present at birth in the records as they were not 
there in reality. I consider the correct place to be Alt Names, in conjunction 
with an Event if wanted.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian L. Lightfoot
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 5:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Treatment of Historic "Surnames"

Jenny,
Following  your logic detailed below, a doctor of medicine should not have a 
suffix of "MD" or "Doctor"  and an ordained minister of God should not have a 
prefix of "Rev".  You state that since these were inherited at some stage in a 
person's life, you would only create an event to cover this. While I agree that 
an event should be created to show graduation from medical school or being 
ordained from a theological school, I most certainly think that MD, Doctor, or 
Reverend are part of the exact titles meant to be covered by the name prefixes 
and suffixes within Legacy.

Brian in California

-----Original Message-----

It was almost certainly in LUG (some time ago) that I read that one should not 
make entries in the Prefix or Suffix field if that information did not apply at 
the time of the birth of the individual.  I don't remember if that was the 
poster's personal opinion or a generally accepted rule.

I think I am inclined to agree.

If a title was inherited at some stage in a person's life I would create an 
Event to cover this.  If they were born a Duke, Prince or whatever I would put 
this in the prefix.

As for the surname, "of Somewhere" was commonly used as such and many of these 
"of" names developed into the regular surnames we know to-day.  I would use "of 
Somewhere" in the place of a surname.  In this case, like Jay, I would use "von 
Kleve" as the surname.  If Johan was born into his Dukedom I would use Herzog 
as the prefix.  (Not Duke, unless the "von Kleve" surname is also to be 
translated to "of Cleves.)


--
Jenny M Benson





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