Re: [LegacyUG] Never married option in Legacy 8

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AND in Germany as well in certain areas because only the oldest son inherited, the younger sons couldn't "set up a household" for many years because of financial constraints - having a child out of wedlock in those cases was not condemned, and one can find notes in baptismal records of "illegitimati" who were legitimized years later by a notation of the parents' marriage. -----Original Message----- From: Jay 1FamilyTree <1familytree....@gmail.com> Sent: Jun 18, 2013 3:51 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Never married option in Legacy 8 In some locations (especially if a proposed marriage involved either a man and woman relocating from a different governing jurisdiction) the couple had to prove they were capable of having a child (by having one) prior to a decision on whether relocation to the other jurisdiction was or was not allowed to occur, and prior to a “marriage” being approved to occur (either by either the church or the civil jurisdictions or both). AND in some areas in the early 1800's  it was OK to get a woman pregnant before a marriage to "be sure" she would not be barren especially if there was"farm land" to be inherited. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Lee Bruch <lbr...@nwlink.com> wrote: It’s not just an issue with 21st century. In the 17th and 18th century (maybe at other times too) in some areas of what is now called Germany there were various sanctioned traditions of having children outside of marriage. (Some of these were called “farm marriages”). In some locations (especially if a proposed marriage involved either a man and woman relocating from a different governing jurisdiction) the couple had to prove they were capable of having a child (by having one) prior to a decision on whether relocation to the other jurisdiction was or was not allowed to occur, and prior to a “marriage” being approved to occur (either by either the church or the civil jurisdictions or both).   From: Larry Lee [mailto:ldlee...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 10:24 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Never married option in Legacy 8   John, etal,   I have seen this discussion several times in the past and presented my thoughts to the compendium. I favor being able to assign the proper titles in the labels in Family View.    I dislike having to make my data 'fit' the software! I also prefer not to put minutiae in my notes for things the program should accommodate.    So, I agree. Relationship window is more correct. Allowing the use of relationship titles, as a marriage option, would enable the user to keep their data as they prefer.    Although I am 'old school' I realize we have moved into the 21st century and need to be able to use today's terminology within Legacy.   Larry Lee ldlee.a...@gmail.com     On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:10 AM, John Zimmerman <hwedh...@cox.net> wrote: Why not simply rename the "Marriage Indormation Window" to call it the "Relationship Information Window"? John Zimmerman Mesa, AZ Sent from my iPhone 5 On Jun 18, 2013, at 8:32 AM, Ronald Bernier <ronaldbern...@bernfrin.org> wrote: > Just curious - how is Millennia confusing newbies?  Maybe Millennia could take a cue from Heredis and call the term to partner.  Of course, this would satisfy some and have others up in arms. > > The only other option is for those who are not happy with the program to consider writing their own program.  Then, they could have the exact terminology they want and not try to force a change for those who are satisfied with the status quo. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 18, 2013, at 11:25 AM, "Mike Fry" <emjay...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 2013/06/18 16:33, Sherry/Support wrote: >> >>> It's incorrect to separate "never married" and "had no children" >>> >>> When a person has a child, a relationship is established with another person - a >>> "marriage" is created whether or not the couple was actually married. It takes >>> two to make a child (even if one of them is an anonymous sperm donor!) and both >>> parents need to be shown. >>> >>> On the "marriage" screen, you can indicate that the couple never married and set >>> the Status to "Unmarried" or another choice. >>> >>> But there must be a relationship with another person to create a child. >>> >>> Therefore it would be incorrect to say "this person never married" if there was >>> a child because a relationship has to be established in Legacy to create that >>> child..... >>> >>> There is no 100% certain way to know if a person never had any children unless >>> he or she died before puberty.... I'm sure all of us have at least one "hidden" >>> marriage or child that was never acknowledged >> >> Ain't English a funny language :-) Methinks it's time for Millennium to sort >> their terminology out and stop confusing newbies. >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Mike Fry >> Johannesburg (g) >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). 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