Your example helps to see your problem. Just curious, how many locations do you have in total?
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Kathy Thompson <[email protected]>wrote: > I do understand that Bruce, but when I first started I would simply put in > (as examples) > Angus > Brechin angus (complete with no capital and no comma) > Angus Scotland (again, complete with no comma) > > so you see, I can't very well sort like the program can do because Angus > isn't going to come up in the first position if there are no commas there > > Hence I need a search feature to help me find all of these stray locations > so that I can actually get things organised and standardised. > > > > > On 11 November 2013 14:06, Bruce Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Kathy, >> When they say to "standardize" your location, it doesn't mean they have >> to have a specific number of positions, just that they need to be entered >> in a consistent manner; i.e. either from smallest to largest or from >> largest to smallest, regardless of the number of positions. So, >> If you have locations entered as follows: >> >> Sublimity, Marion, Oregon, USA >> Marion, Oregon, USA >> Oregon, USA >> Salem, Marion, Oregon, USA >> 123 Anystreet, Sublimity, Marion, Oregon, USA >> >> they are consistently entered from smallest to largest. >> Then, go to "View", "Master Lists", "Location" >> Click on "Sort" >> Click on "Right to Left" on Direction of Sort >> Then they will be listed as >> >> USA, Oregon >> USA, Oregon, Marion >> USA, Oregon, Marion, Salem >> USA, Oregon, Marion, Sublimity >> USA, Oregon, Marion, Sublimity, 123 Anystreet >> >> So, all the Oregons will be together, all the Marions will be together, >> all the Sublimitys will be together etc. >> >> This may or may not help you, but I wanted to make sure you understood >> what is being said. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Kathy Thompson <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Michele - to get my locations consistent, I need to be able to find the >>> locations in the first place. >>> I am not good with geography, never have been, never will be. >>> To ensure I don't "stuff up" I need to do all of one place at the one >>> time - in other words, I need to do all the Angus places at once, then move >>> on to Fife, then move to Perthshire, and then eventually move to Oklahoma, >>> and so on. >>> Given that only the USA uses 4 parts to their place names, and all of my >>> other locations are 3 part or have "extras" like suburbs or cemetery names, >>> sorting them according to fields isn't working for my current location >>> database. >>> Right now I'm ready to give up on this aspect of standardisation because >>> it's just way too complicated and difficult to work out how best to >>> standardise everything in a way that makes sense and looks good - ie no , , >>> gaps just because my family doesn't live in America. >>> >>> Regardless of the above though, putting in a search field for "Any >>> Place" will also allow me to search for (as an example) >>> Individual > Any date > Contains > 1900 >>> Individual > Any Place > Contains > Angus >>> and get a result list of only those people who are recorded as living in >>> Angus in 1900, regardless of how standard or non-standard my locations list >>> is. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 11 November 2013 10:06, Michele/Support <[email protected] >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Kathy, >>>> If you have your locations entered in a consistent manner (Legacy is a >>>> true database program that uses fields) the sort feature is great and it is >>>> fast. The only time you would have a problem with the sort is if you don’t >>>> enter your locations in a consistent manner. Even though it would be a lot >>>> of work initially you might want to go through all of your locations and >>>> get them changed over to the standard format. The good news is, the >>>> changes are global. You can also combine locations if you have two >>>> identical locations entered differently. Once you have your locations in >>>> Legacy this way you will be able to manipulate your data more efficiently. >>>> One hint, as you get each location "cleaned up" you can tag it so that >>>> whenever you go back to work on the locations again, you will know exactly >>>> which ones have been done and which ones haven’t. Another hint, you might >>>> want to go ahead and put in short locations at the same time and check the >>>> geocoding. >>>> >>>> When I switched from FTM to Legacy in 2005ish I had to do this. At >>>> that time FTM had no way to check the locations like Legacy did/does (FTM >>>> might now, I have no idea) so I had my locations entered every which way. >>>> It took some time but it was well worth the effort. Once it was cleaned >>>> up it was no problem because then I entered the locations the correct way. >>>> >>>> >>>> Michele >>>> Technical Support >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com >>>> >>>> From: Kathy Thompson [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 6:38 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Search for all people in one county >>>> >>>> What a convoluted time consuming way that could easily be solved using >>>> one simple search for "Individual > Any Place > Contains > Angus" that I >>>> can think print out a list of names from and the whole process is over and >>>> done with in 2 minutes tops. >>>> I'm glad that some people have been able to keep there Locations list >>>> in an organised way so that they can simply sort it and get all the Angus >>>> locations together - why do you think I need to have an "Any Place" search >>>> ability? >>>> So I can get my locations sorted and organised and standardised. >>>> (As well as other reasons) >>>> I've just spent 10 minutes tying to find all my Angus locations as you >>>> suggested - I doubt I even have half of them yet - because of the >>>> non-standard way the locations have been entered over time >>>> If I have to do this for every single possible location - I'll go stark >>>> raving nuts! >>>> >>>> Please Legacy, just add in a "Any Place" option for the search and you >>>> wont have people getting frustrated like I am. >>>> (Yes, I've submitted a feature request) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11 November 2013 07:52, Brian/Support <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> View > Master Lists > Location >>>> The sort options are on that screen using the sort button >>>> That is also where both Michele and I gave you a way to find those using >>>> the locations. Michele by selecting each in turn and I by using >>>> CTRL-Click with the mouse to select every location containing Angus >>>> County then, with all the locations selected use the Option Button (Not >>>> the List Option Button) to select Show list. >>>> That will show everyone using the selected locations which is what you >>>> are looking for. >>>> >>>> Brian >>>> Customer Support >>>> Millennia Corporation >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com >>>> >>>> We are changing the world of genealogy! >>>> When replying to this message, please include all previous >>>> correspondence. >>>> Thanks. >>>> On 10/11/2013 4:46 PM, Kathy Thompson wrote: >>>> > This is what I want to do >>>> > >>>> >> If you want everyone in Angus (in the county and within towns in >>>> that county) you can still do it using the Master Location List. Just sort >>>> your list so that all of the Angus locations are together and then it is >>>> easy to look at each list and tag them. It doesn’t take long at all >>>> because under each location you can select List Options and then Tag >>>> Everyone in List. It takes about 2 seconds for each location. >>>> > >>>> > But I cant do this because I can't search the location list for only >>>> the Angus locations. >>>> > And there is no way that I can recall all of the Angus locations I've >>>> entered >>>> > You say I can sort the locations list? >>>> > Maybe someone need to tell me how to do that, because I can't figure >>>> that out. >>>> > Also, given that I do not have empty fields in my locations , ie >>>> "Oathlaw, , Angus, Scotland", I just have "Oathlaw, Angus, Scotland" is >>>> this going to affect any sorting process? >>>> > And no, I do not want o have the extra , , in all of my locations >>>> when they are not needed. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Kathy >>>> > >>>> > On 10/11/2013, at 10:40 PM, "Michele/Support" < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> So you are wanting to find people that are listed in a county but >>>> not listed in that same county if they are listed in a specific town? In >>>> other words, you only want to see those listed in Angus, Scotland and not >>>> anyone that is listed in a specific town in Angus? >>>> >> >>>> >> I would do that in the Master Location list. All you have to do is >>>> find the entry that is only , Angus, Scotland and tag those people. >>>> >> >>>> >> If you want everyone in Angus (in the county and within towns in >>>> that county) you can still do it using the Master Location List. Just sort >>>> your list so that all of the Angus locations are together and then it is >>>> easy to look at each list and tag them. It doesn’t take long at all >>>> because under each location you can select List Options and then Tag >>>> Everyone in List. It takes about 2 seconds for each location. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Michele >>>> >> Technical Support >>>> >> [email protected] >>>> >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com >>>> >> >>>> >> From: Kathy Thompson [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> >> Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2013 9:50 PM >>>> >> To: [email protected] >>>> >> Subject: [LegacyUG] Search for all people in one county >>>> >> >>>> >> Does anyone know if there is a simple way to search for all the >>>> people who I have recorded as living in one county (or state or even >>>> country)? >>>> >> >>>> >> I am finding that as I get more into the filling out of minute >>>> details, I am needing to collate together all of the people who lived in a >>>> certain county or state. >>>> >> And as a person might be located somewhere for an event other than a >>>> birth death or marriage, a three tiered search repeated dozens of times is >>>> not helpful when trying to cover any one of a multitude of event >>>> possibilities. >>>> >> I need to be able to collect everyone who has a county or state (or >>>> even as wide as a specific country) listed for me as a result of a single >>>> search return. >>>> >> I know that we can do an "Any date" search, but I can't see an "Any >>>> place" search. >>>> >> This kind of search is not possible by going to "locations" as that >>>> will only show people in specific towns, or other locations as specifically >>>> entered, it can not show me everyone who I have recorded as living in Angus >>>> Scotland (for example), it will show me Oathlaw Angus Scotland, or Brechin >>>> Angus Scotland, but not Angus Scotland (unless I have entered that location >>>> for someone without a more specific town, but even then it's only for that >>>> one or two people, not the possibly 150 who lived in Angus Scotland) >>>> >> >>>> >> I've submitted this as a feature request, but since we are unlikely >>>> to get any minor updates before Legacy 8 comes out, and this request might >>>> not even come out in the first few minor updates after that, I still need >>>> to find all of the people in one county in a quick and easy manner. >>>> >> >>>> >> Aside from the repeated searches with different criteria, is there >>>> ANY way I can do this with a minimum of fuss and bother? >>>> >> >>>> >> Thanks >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: >>>> >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >>>> >> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >>>> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>> >> Archived messages from old mail server - 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