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On 11/11/2013, at 2:26 PM, Bruce Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > Your example helps to see your problem. > Just curious, how many locations do you have in total? > > > On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Kathy Thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > I do understand that Bruce, but when I first started I would simply put in > (as examples) > Angus > Brechin angus (complete with no capital and no comma) > Angus Scotland (again, complete with no comma) > > so you see, I can't very well sort like the program can do because Angus > isn't going to come up in the first position if there are no commas there > > Hence I need a search feature to help me find all of these stray locations so > that I can actually get things organised and standardised. > > > > > On 11 November 2013 14:06, Bruce Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > Kathy, > When they say to "standardize" your location, it doesn't mean they have to > have a specific number of positions, just that they need to be entered in a > consistent manner; i.e. either from smallest to largest or from largest to > smallest, regardless of the number of positions. So, > If you have locations entered as follows: > > Sublimity, Marion, Oregon, USA > Marion, Oregon, USA > Oregon, USA > Salem, Marion, Oregon, USA > 123 Anystreet, Sublimity, Marion, Oregon, USA > > they are consistently entered from smallest to largest. > Then, go to "View", "Master Lists", "Location" > Click on "Sort" > Click on "Right to Left" on Direction of Sort > Then they will be listed as > > USA, Oregon > USA, Oregon, Marion > USA, Oregon, Marion, Salem > USA, Oregon, Marion, Sublimity > USA, Oregon, Marion, Sublimity, 123 Anystreet > > So, all the Oregons will be together, all the Marions will be together, all > the Sublimitys will be together etc. > > This may or may not help you, but I wanted to make sure you understood what > is being said. > > > > On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Kathy Thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > Michele - to get my locations consistent, I need to be able to find the > locations in the first place. > I am not good with geography, never have been, never will be. > To ensure I don't "stuff up" I need to do all of one place at the one time - > in other words, I need to do all the Angus places at once, then move on to > Fife, then move to Perthshire, and then eventually move to Oklahoma, and so > on. > Given that only the USA uses 4 parts to their place names, and all of my > other locations are 3 part or have "extras" like suburbs or cemetery names, > sorting them according to fields isn't working for my current location > database. > Right now I'm ready to give up on this aspect of standardisation because it's > just way too complicated and difficult to work out how best to standardise > everything in a way that makes sense and looks good - ie no , , gaps just > because my family doesn't live in America. > > Regardless of the above though, putting in a search field for "Any Place" > will also allow me to search for (as an example) > Individual > Any date > Contains > 1900 > Individual > Any Place > Contains > Angus > and get a result list of only those people who are recorded as living in > Angus in 1900, regardless of how standard or non-standard my locations list > is. > > > > > > On 11 November 2013 10:06, Michele/Support <[email protected]> > wrote: > Kathy, > If you have your locations entered in a consistent manner (Legacy is a true > database program that uses fields) the sort feature is great and it is fast. > The only time you would have a problem with the sort is if you don’t enter > your locations in a consistent manner. Even though it would be a lot of work > initially you might want to go through all of your locations and get them > changed over to the standard format. The good news is, the changes are > global. You can also combine locations if you have two identical locations > entered differently. Once you have your locations in Legacy this way you > will be able to manipulate your data more efficiently. One hint, as you get > each location "cleaned up" you can tag it so that whenever you go back to > work on the locations again, you will know exactly which ones have been done > and which ones haven’t. Another hint, you might want to go ahead and put in > short locations at the same time and check the geocoding. > > When I switched from FTM to Legacy in 2005ish I had to do this. At that time > FTM had no way to check the locations like Legacy did/does (FTM might now, I > have no idea) so I had my locations entered every which way. It took some > time but it was well worth the effort. Once it was cleaned up it was no > problem because then I entered the locations the correct way. > > > Michele > Technical Support > [email protected] > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com > > From: Kathy Thompson [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 6:38 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Search for all people in one county > > What a convoluted time consuming way that could easily be solved using one > simple search for "Individual > Any Place > Contains > Angus" that I can > think print out a list of names from and the whole process is over and done > with in 2 minutes tops. > I'm glad that some people have been able to keep there Locations list in an > organised way so that they can simply sort it and get all the Angus locations > together - why do you think I need to have an "Any Place" search ability? > So I can get my locations sorted and organised and standardised. > (As well as other reasons) > I've just spent 10 minutes tying to find all my Angus locations as you > suggested - I doubt I even have half of them yet - because of the > non-standard way the locations have been entered over time > If I have to do this for every single possible location - I'll go stark > raving nuts! > > Please Legacy, just add in a "Any Place" option for the search and you wont > have people getting frustrated like I am. > (Yes, I've submitted a feature request) > > > > On 11 November 2013 07:52, Brian/Support <[email protected]> wrote: > View > Master Lists > Location > The sort options are on that screen using the sort button > That is also where both Michele and I gave you a way to find those using > the locations. Michele by selecting each in turn and I by using > CTRL-Click with the mouse to select every location containing Angus > County then, with all the locations selected use the Option Button (Not > the List Option Button) to select Show list. > That will show everyone using the selected locations which is what you > are looking for. > > Brian > Customer Support > Millennia Corporation > [email protected] > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com > > We are changing the world of genealogy! > When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. > Thanks. > On 10/11/2013 4:46 PM, Kathy Thompson wrote: > > This is what I want to do > > > >> If you want everyone in Angus (in the county and within towns in that > >> county) you can still do it using the Master Location List. Just sort > >> your list so that all of the Angus locations are together and then it is > >> easy to look at each list and tag them. It doesn’t take long at all > >> because under each location you can select List Options and then Tag > >> Everyone in List. It takes about 2 seconds for each location. > > > > But I cant do this because I can't search the location list for only the > > Angus locations. > > And there is no way that I can recall all of the Angus locations I've > > entered > > You say I can sort the locations list? > > Maybe someone need to tell me how to do that, because I can't figure that > > out. > > Also, given that I do not have empty fields in my locations , ie "Oathlaw, > > , Angus, Scotland", I just have "Oathlaw, Angus, Scotland" is this going to > > affect any sorting process? > > And no, I do not want o have the extra , , in all of my locations when they > > are not needed. > > > > > > Kathy > > > > On 10/11/2013, at 10:40 PM, "Michele/Support" > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> So you are wanting to find people that are listed in a county but not > >> listed in that same county if they are listed in a specific town? In > >> other words, you only want to see those listed in Angus, Scotland and not > >> anyone that is listed in a specific town in Angus? > >> > >> I would do that in the Master Location list. All you have to do is find > >> the entry that is only , Angus, Scotland and tag those people. > >> > >> If you want everyone in Angus (in the county and within towns in that > >> county) you can still do it using the Master Location List. Just sort > >> your list so that all of the Angus locations are together and then it is > >> easy to look at each list and tag them. It doesn’t take long at all > >> because under each location you can select List Options and then Tag > >> Everyone in List. It takes about 2 seconds for each location. > >> > >> > >> Michele > >> Technical Support > >> [email protected] > >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com > >> > >> From: Kathy Thompson [mailto:[email protected]] > >> Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2013 9:50 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: [LegacyUG] Search for all people in one county > >> > >> Does anyone know if there is a simple way to search for all the people who > >> I have recorded as living in one county (or state or even country)? > >> > >> I am finding that as I get more into the filling out of minute details, I > >> am needing to collate together all of the people who lived in a certain > >> county or state. > >> And as a person might be located somewhere for an event other than a birth > >> death or marriage, a three tiered search repeated dozens of times is not > >> helpful when trying to cover any one of a multitude of event possibilities. > >> I need to be able to collect everyone who has a county or state (or even > >> as wide as a specific country) listed for me as a result of a single > >> search return. > >> I know that we can do an "Any date" search, but I can't see an "Any place" > >> search. > >> This kind of search is not possible by going to "locations" as that will > >> only show people in specific towns, or other locations as specifically > >> entered, it can not show me everyone who I have recorded as living in > >> Angus Scotland (for example), it will show me Oathlaw Angus Scotland, or > >> Brechin Angus Scotland, but not Angus Scotland (unless I have entered that > >> location for someone without a more specific town, but even then it's only > >> for that one or two people, not the possibly 150 who lived in Angus > >> Scotland) > >> > >> I've submitted this as a feature request, but since we are unlikely to get > >> any minor updates before Legacy 8 comes out, and this request might not > >> even come out in the first few minor updates after that, I still need to > >> find all of the people in one county in a quick and easy manner. > >> > >> Aside from the repeated searches with different criteria, is there ANY way > >> I can do this with a minimum of fuss and bother? > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> > >> Legacy User Group guidelines: > >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > >> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > >> Archived messages from old mail server - 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