I do understand that Bruce, but when I first started I would simply put in (as examples) Angus Brechin angus (complete with no capital and no comma) Angus Scotland (again, complete with no comma)
so you see, I can't very well sort like the program can do because Angus isn't going to come up in the first position if there are no commas there Hence I need a search feature to help me find all of these stray locations so that I can actually get things organised and standardised. On 11 November 2013 14:06, Bruce Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > Kathy, > When they say to "standardize" your location, it doesn't mean they have to > have a specific number of positions, just that they need to be entered in a > consistent manner; i.e. either from smallest to largest or from largest to > smallest, regardless of the number of positions. So, > If you have locations entered as follows: > > Sublimity, Marion, Oregon, USA > Marion, Oregon, USA > Oregon, USA > Salem, Marion, Oregon, USA > 123 Anystreet, Sublimity, Marion, Oregon, USA > > they are consistently entered from smallest to largest. > Then, go to "View", "Master Lists", "Location" > Click on "Sort" > Click on "Right to Left" on Direction of Sort > Then they will be listed as > > USA, Oregon > USA, Oregon, Marion > USA, Oregon, Marion, Salem > USA, Oregon, Marion, Sublimity > USA, Oregon, Marion, Sublimity, 123 Anystreet > > So, all the Oregons will be together, all the Marions will be together, > all the Sublimitys will be together etc. > > This may or may not help you, but I wanted to make sure you understood > what is being said. > > > > On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Kathy Thompson <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Michele - to get my locations consistent, I need to be able to find the >> locations in the first place. >> I am not good with geography, never have been, never will be. >> To ensure I don't "stuff up" I need to do all of one place at the one >> time - in other words, I need to do all the Angus places at once, then move >> on to Fife, then move to Perthshire, and then eventually move to Oklahoma, >> and so on. >> Given that only the USA uses 4 parts to their place names, and all of my >> other locations are 3 part or have "extras" like suburbs or cemetery names, >> sorting them according to fields isn't working for my current location >> database. >> Right now I'm ready to give up on this aspect of standardisation because >> it's just way too complicated and difficult to work out how best to >> standardise everything in a way that makes sense and looks good - ie no , , >> gaps just because my family doesn't live in America. >> >> Regardless of the above though, putting in a search field for "Any Place" >> will also allow me to search for (as an example) >> Individual > Any date > Contains > 1900 >> Individual > Any Place > Contains > Angus >> and get a result list of only those people who are recorded as living in >> Angus in 1900, regardless of how standard or non-standard my locations list >> is. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 11 November 2013 10:06, Michele/Support >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Kathy, >>> If you have your locations entered in a consistent manner (Legacy is a >>> true database program that uses fields) the sort feature is great and it is >>> fast. The only time you would have a problem with the sort is if you don’t >>> enter your locations in a consistent manner. Even though it would be a lot >>> of work initially you might want to go through all of your locations and >>> get them changed over to the standard format. The good news is, the >>> changes are global. You can also combine locations if you have two >>> identical locations entered differently. Once you have your locations in >>> Legacy this way you will be able to manipulate your data more efficiently. >>> One hint, as you get each location "cleaned up" you can tag it so that >>> whenever you go back to work on the locations again, you will know exactly >>> which ones have been done and which ones haven’t. Another hint, you might >>> want to go ahead and put in short locations at the same time and check the >>> geocoding. >>> >>> When I switched from FTM to Legacy in 2005ish I had to do this. At that >>> time FTM had no way to check the locations like Legacy did/does (FTM might >>> now, I have no idea) so I had my locations entered every which way. It >>> took some time but it was well worth the effort. Once it was cleaned up it >>> was no problem because then I entered the locations the correct way. >>> >>> >>> Michele >>> Technical Support >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com >>> >>> From: Kathy Thompson [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 6:38 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Search for all people in one county >>> >>> What a convoluted time consuming way that could easily be solved using >>> one simple search for "Individual > Any Place > Contains > Angus" that I >>> can think print out a list of names from and the whole process is over and >>> done with in 2 minutes tops. >>> I'm glad that some people have been able to keep there Locations list in >>> an organised way so that they can simply sort it and get all the Angus >>> locations together - why do you think I need to have an "Any Place" search >>> ability? >>> So I can get my locations sorted and organised and standardised. >>> (As well as other reasons) >>> I've just spent 10 minutes tying to find all my Angus locations as you >>> suggested - I doubt I even have half of them yet - because of the >>> non-standard way the locations have been entered over time >>> If I have to do this for every single possible location - I'll go stark >>> raving nuts! >>> >>> Please Legacy, just add in a "Any Place" option for the search and you >>> wont have people getting frustrated like I am. >>> (Yes, I've submitted a feature request) >>> >>> >>> >>> On 11 November 2013 07:52, Brian/Support <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> View > Master Lists > Location >>> The sort options are on that screen using the sort button >>> That is also where both Michele and I gave you a way to find those using >>> the locations. Michele by selecting each in turn and I by using >>> CTRL-Click with the mouse to select every location containing Angus >>> County then, with all the locations selected use the Option Button (Not >>> the List Option Button) to select Show list. >>> That will show everyone using the selected locations which is what you >>> are looking for. >>> >>> Brian >>> Customer Support >>> Millennia Corporation >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com >>> >>> We are changing the world of genealogy! >>> When replying to this message, please include all previous >>> correspondence. >>> Thanks. >>> On 10/11/2013 4:46 PM, Kathy Thompson wrote: >>> > This is what I want to do >>> > >>> >> If you want everyone in Angus (in the county and within towns in that >>> county) you can still do it using the Master Location List. Just sort your >>> list so that all of the Angus locations are together and then it is easy to >>> look at each list and tag them. It doesn’t take long at all because >>> under each location you can select List Options and then Tag Everyone in >>> List. It takes about 2 seconds for each location. >>> > >>> > But I cant do this because I can't search the location list for only >>> the Angus locations. >>> > And there is no way that I can recall all of the Angus locations I've >>> entered >>> > You say I can sort the locations list? >>> > Maybe someone need to tell me how to do that, because I can't figure >>> that out. >>> > Also, given that I do not have empty fields in my locations , ie >>> "Oathlaw, , Angus, Scotland", I just have "Oathlaw, Angus, Scotland" is >>> this going to affect any sorting process? >>> > And no, I do not want o have the extra , , in all of my locations when >>> they are not needed. >>> > >>> > >>> > Kathy >>> > >>> > On 10/11/2013, at 10:40 PM, "Michele/Support" < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> >> So you are wanting to find people that are listed in a county but not >>> listed in that same county if they are listed in a specific town? In other >>> words, you only want to see those listed in Angus, Scotland and not anyone >>> that is listed in a specific town in Angus? >>> >> >>> >> I would do that in the Master Location list. All you have to do is >>> find the entry that is only , Angus, Scotland and tag those people. >>> >> >>> >> If you want everyone in Angus (in the county and within towns in that >>> county) you can still do it using the Master Location List. Just sort your >>> list so that all of the Angus locations are together and then it is easy to >>> look at each list and tag them. It doesn’t take long at all because >>> under each location you can select List Options and then Tag Everyone in >>> List. It takes about 2 seconds for each location. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Michele >>> >> Technical Support >>> >> [email protected] >>> >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com >>> >> >>> >> From: Kathy Thompson [mailto:[email protected]] >>> >> Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2013 9:50 PM >>> >> To: [email protected] >>> >> Subject: [LegacyUG] Search for all people in one county >>> >> >>> >> Does anyone know if there is a simple way to search for all the >>> people who I have recorded as living in one county (or state or even >>> country)? >>> >> >>> >> I am finding that as I get more into the filling out of minute >>> details, I am needing to collate together all of the people who lived in a >>> certain county or state. >>> >> And as a person might be located somewhere for an event other than a >>> birth death or marriage, a three tiered search repeated dozens of times is >>> not helpful when trying to cover any one of a multitude of event >>> possibilities. >>> >> I need to be able to collect everyone who has a county or state (or >>> even as wide as a specific country) listed for me as a result of a single >>> search return. >>> >> I know that we can do an "Any date" search, but I can't see an "Any >>> place" search. >>> >> This kind of search is not possible by going to "locations" as that >>> will only show people in specific towns, or other locations as specifically >>> entered, it can not show me everyone who I have recorded as living in Angus >>> Scotland (for example), it will show me Oathlaw Angus Scotland, or Brechin >>> Angus Scotland, but not Angus Scotland (unless I have entered that location >>> for someone without a more specific town, but even then it's only for that >>> one or two people, not the possibly 150 who lived in Angus Scotland) >>> >> >>> >> I've submitted this as a feature request, but since we are unlikely >>> to get any minor updates before Legacy 8 comes out, and this request might >>> not even come out in the first few minor updates after that, I still need >>> to find all of the people in one county in a quick and easy manner. >>> >> >>> >> Aside from the repeated searches with different criteria, is there >>> ANY way I can do this with a minimum of fuss and bother? >>> >> >>> >> Thanks >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: >>> >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >>> >> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >>> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> >> Archived messages from old mail server - 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