Ian,
It's not possible to make your own SourceWriter templates. This has been
asked for, but for some reason rejected.
Another tip for UK records. Anything at the The National Archives can be
sourced using a Census template that has the relevant fields for the
Department code and series number in the Master Source and a field for
the piece number in the Source Detail.
I add folio and page to the piece box as well to follow TNA citation
style. In this detail Elizabeth Shown Mills seems to break her
principles of keeping a reference together. I haven't seen the latest
editions of her work to see if she's amended her English Census models.
Cathy
Ian Thomas <mailto:[email protected]>
Monday, 24 April 2017 7:07 AM
Wouldn't it be great if Millenia provided add on packages that covered
the different methods of recording in various countries at different
times, but that would be a daunting task I'm sure.
Or – does anyone know whether Legacy’s SourceWriter Templates created
by others for their specific purpose are “transferrable”? That is, are
they a separate named file on the creator’s disk, which could be
uploaded to a site where others might download and then install into
their Legacy system on their computer?
If that is a possibility, in effect, a Legacy community resource could
be created.
I’m not sure whether the format of SourceWriter has changed, from v8
(or before?) to v9 of Legacy.
Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
Barry Godbeer <mailto:[email protected]>
Monday, 24 April 2017 2:12 AM
Cathy,
Thank you for your quick and helpful reply.
You seem to have found a way to record non US sources in Legacy that
would work for me. One of my concerns was possibly having a different
Master Source for every church. If I understand your two examples
correctly you have some Master Sources for individual churches and
some for a central depository depending on where you sourced the
information.
Rather than have a mix I think I will start off my baptism Master
Sources using a central depository (SWHT/Parochial Church
Council/Findmypast), understanding that nothing works for ever. I have
overlooked marriage banns in the past because I didn't know what to do
with them. Now you have given me direction.
Wouldn't it be great if Millenia provided add on packages that covered
the different methods of recording in various countries at different
times, but that would be a daunting task I'm sure.
Thanks again,
Barry Godbeer
On Saturday, April 22, 2017 9:56 PM, Cathy Pinner <[email protected]>
wrote:
Barry,
Church Records include Baptisms, Burials and Marriages. The records
are recorded in Church Registers or "record books" in Legacy speak.
So you're looking for Church records > Church record books > created
at local level (parish, congregation, meeting, etc) > and then the
format you've used. I've chosen to use the Microfilm/fiche rather than
online images as I've seem some at the Archives on microfilm in a rare
visit to England and some online.
I use the Film ID in the Master Source to acknowledge both sources:
eg: Images courtesy of South West Heritage Trust & Parochial Church
Council & FindMyPast
I actually make a Master Source for each church but I could have
instead chosen to make a Master Source for each Archive.
In my case: Dorset History Centre, the London Metropolitan Archives, etc.
I learn where the registers actually are arc hived.
So one Master Source reads: St Margaret (Topsham, Devon, England);
Images courtesy of South West Heritage Trust and Parochial Church
Council & FindMyPast, Devon Heritage Centre, Exeter.
and a source citation:
St Margaret (Topsham, Devon, England), "Marriages 1417A/PR/1/15
1837-1881," Page 1, No 1 1837 marriage of William Harris & Rebecca
Mawditt; Images courtesy of South West Heritage Trust and Parochial
Church Council & FindMyPast, Devon Heritage Centre, Exeter.
This "1417A/PR/1/15" is the Archive reference for that particular
register. If it's not obvious on the online site, I look at the
Archive catalogue and find it and also record their microfilm number,
if any is given. At the archives you can usually only see parish
registers on microfilm - and probably now the online images.
The Source Detail has a "Title" field for the name of the actual
register ( or church and register if you chose to have one Master
Source for Devon Heritage Centre)
Then one for Item of interest where I record the page and record
number from the register etc
Here's one for Dorset: Saint Lawrence (Folke, Dorset, England),
"Christenings PE/FOL/RE 2/1 1813-1906," p 1, no 3 baptism of George
Uppill (1813); Images courtesy DHC and Ancestry.com; DHC microfilm
MIC/R/511, Dorset History Centre, Dorchester.
Does that help?
Cathy
Barry Godbeer wrote:
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Cathy Pinner <mailto:[email protected]>
Sunday, 23 April 2017 9:55 AM
Barry,
Church Records include Baptisms, Burials and Marriages. The records
are recorded in Church Registers or "record books" in Legacy speak.
So you're looking for Church records > Church record books > created
at local level (parish, congregation, meeting, etc) > and then the
format you've used. I've chosen to use the Microfilm/fiche rather than
online images as I've seem some at the Archives on microfilm in a rare
visit to England and some online.
I use the Film ID in the Master Source to acknowledge both sources:
eg: Images courtesy of South West Heritage Trust & Parochial Church
Council & FindMyPast
I actually make a Master Source for each church but I could have
instead chosen to make a Master Source for each Archive.
In my case: Dorset History Centre, the London Metropolitan Archives, etc.
I learn where the registers actually are arc hived.
So one Master Source reads: St Margaret (Topsham, Devon, England);
Images courtesy of South West Heritage Trust and Parochial Church
Council & FindMyPast, Devon Heritage Centre, Exeter.
and a source citation:
St Margaret (Topsham, Devon, England), "Marriages 1417A/PR/1/15
1837-1881," Page 1, No 1 1837 marriage of William Harris & Rebecca
Mawditt; Images courtesy of South West Heritage Trust and Parochial
Church Council & FindMyPast, Devon Heritage Centre, Exeter.
This "1417A/PR/1/15" is the Archive reference for that particular
register. If it's not obvious on the online site, I look at the
Archive catalogue and find it and also record their microfilm number,
if any is given. At the archives you can usually only see parish
registers on microfilm - and probably now the online images.
The Source Detail has a "Title" field for the name of the actual
register ( or church and register if you chose to have one Master
Source for Devon Heritage Centre)
Then one for Item of interest where I record the page and record
number from the register etc
Here's one for Dorset: Saint Lawrence (Folke, Dorset, England),
"Christenings PE/FOL/RE 2/1 1813-1906," p 1, no 3 baptism of George
Uppill (1813); Images courtesy DHC and Ancestry.com; DHC microfilm
MIC/R/511, Dorset History Centre, Dorchester.
Does that help?
Cathy
Barry Godbeer wrote:
Barry Godbeer <mailto:[email protected]>
Sunday, 23 April 2017 5:39 AM
I am having a hard time finding the a appropriate Source Writer for
Baptisms in various counties in England and Wales.
The Source Writer for Church Records mentions nothing about Baptisms,
unless I have developed tunnel vision, and it is there right under my
nose.
My OS is Microsoft Vista and my LFT is 8.0.0.598. Must update computer
soon!
As attachments are not allowed I will try to explain my problem.
I have an image of a Baptism, viewed in Findmypast, in the Parish of
Lower Brixham (Devon, England) that has a page number and an entry
number with a reference to South West Heritage Trust and Parochial
Church Council in the left margin.
The transcript, copyright of Findmypast, has, besides the name of the
individual, date of Baptism, father and mother,etc it list the
location of the Baptism as Brixham, All Saints (not mentioned on the
image), the Archive as South West Heritage Trust (no mention of the
Parochial Church Council), an archive reference (1955A/PR/1/1) that
makes no mention of the page number or line number and whose archive
reference is it?
For sourcing purposes who holds the original Baptism document, the
Parochial Church Council, South West Heritage Trust or Findmypast?
Only the South West Heritage Trust and Findmypast have URLs. In years
to come which of the three will still be around?
Do I select Source Writer>Church Records>Church Record Books>created
at local level (parish, congregation, meetings, etc and do I do the
best I can with that? The Source Detail related to this Master Source
is not very informative.
To date I have not attached any images or transcripts to any sources
or citations which might help complete the picture of the source, but
that's another To Do Task.
So does anyone have any suggestions? Has anyone with ancestors in
England come up with a solution that makes sense?
Barry Godbeer
Canada
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