Jane, where are you in Phoenix. If you are near the east side, we have a monthly User Group meeting in Mesa.
Richard On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 6:53 PM, Jane Linkswiler <[email protected]> wrote: > Kathy, I've been sitting here for two days with my mouth hanging open at > that WONderful description you gave then on how you write your sources to > show everything about them. And then this, too. Thank you for taking me > down a peg from thinking I was pretty good at getting my sources at all. I > now know what I'll be aiming for. Thank you, > > Jane in Phoenix (first I need to take a good look at all the source > templates) > > -----Original Message----- > From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Cathy Pinner > Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2017 6:29 PM > To: Legacy User Group <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for UK Baptisms > > Ian, > It's not possible to make your own SourceWriter templates. This has been > asked for, but for some reason rejected. > > Another tip for UK records. Anything at the The National Archives can be > sourced using a Census template that has the relevant fields for the > Department code and series number in the Master Source and a field for the > piece number in the Source Detail. > I add folio and page to the piece box as well to follow TNA citation > style. In this detail Elizabeth Shown Mills seems to break her principles > of keeping a reference together. I haven't seen the latest editions of her > work to see if she's amended her English Census models. > > Cathy > > > Ian Thomas <mailto:[email protected]> > > Monday, 24 April 2017 7:07 AM > > > > Wouldn't it be great if Millenia provided add on packages that covered > > the different methods of recording in various countries at different > > times, but that would be a daunting task I'm sure. > > > > Or – does anyone know whether Legacy’s SourceWriter Templates created > > by others for their specific purpose are “transferrable”? That is, are > > they a separate named file on the creator’s disk, which could be > > uploaded to a site where others might download and then install into > > their Legacy system on their computer? > > > > If that is a possibility, in effect, a Legacy community resource could > > be created. > > > > I’m not sure whether the format of SourceWriter has changed, from v8 > > (or before?) to v9 of Legacy. > > > > Ian Thomas > > > > Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia > > > > Barry Godbeer <mailto:[email protected]> > > Monday, 24 April 2017 2:12 AM > > Cathy, > > > > Thank you for your quick and helpful reply. > > > > You seem to have found a way to record non US sources in Legacy that > > would work for me. One of my concerns was possibly having a different > > Master Source for every church. If I understand your two examples > > correctly you have some Master Sources for individual churches and > > some for a central depository depending on where you sourced the > > information. > > > > Rather than have a mix I think I will start off my baptism Master > > Sources using a central depository (SWHT/Parochial Church > > Council/Findmypast), understanding that nothing works for ever. I have > > overlooked marriage banns in the past because I didn't know what to do > > with them. Now you have given me direction. > > > > Wouldn't it be great if Millenia provided add on packages that covered > > the different methods of recording in various countries at different > > times, but that would be a daunting task I'm sure. > > > > Thanks again, > > > > Barry Godbeer > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, April 22, 2017 9:56 PM, Cathy Pinner <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > Barry, > > > > Church Records include Baptisms, Burials and Marriages. The records > > are recorded in Church Registers or "record books" in Legacy speak. > > So you're looking for Church records > Church record books > created > > at local level (parish, congregation, meeting, etc) > and then the > > format you've used. I've chosen to use the Microfilm/fiche rather than > > online images as I've seem some at the Archives on microfilm in a rare > > visit to England and some online. > > I use the Film ID in the Master Source to acknowledge both sources: > > eg: Images courtesy of South West Heritage Trust & Parochial Church > > Council & FindMyPast > > I actually make a Master Source for each church but I could have > > instead chosen to make a Master Source for each Archive. > > In my case: Dorset History Centre, the London Metropolitan Archives, etc. > > I learn where the registers actually are arc hived. > > > > So one Master Source reads: St Margaret (Topsham, Devon, England); > > Images courtesy of South West Heritage Trust and Parochial Church > > Council & FindMyPast, Devon Heritage Centre, Exeter. > > and a source citation: > > St Margaret (Topsham, Devon, England), "Marriages 1417A/PR/1/15 > > 1837-1881," Page 1, No 1 1837 marriage of William Harris & Rebecca > > Mawditt; Images courtesy of South West Heritage Trust and Parochial > > Church Council & FindMyPast, Devon Heritage Centre, Exeter. > > > > This "1417A/PR/1/15" is the Archive reference for that particular > > register. If it's not obvious on the online site, I look at the > > Archive catalogue and find it and also record their microfilm number, > > if any is given. At the archives you can usually only see parish > > registers on microfilm - and probably now the online images. > > > > The Source Detail has a "Title" field for the name of the actual > > register ( or church and register if you chose to have one Master > > Source for Devon Heritage Centre) > > Then one for Item of interest where I record the page and record > > number from the register etc > > > > Here's one for Dorset: Saint Lawrence (Folke, Dorset, England), > > "Christenings PE/FOL/RE 2/1 1813-1906," p 1, no 3 baptism of George > > Uppill (1813); Images courtesy DHC and Ancestry.com; DHC microfilm > > MIC/R/511, Dorset History Centre, Dorchester. > > > > Does that help? > > Cathy > > > > Barry Godbeer wrote: > > -- > > > > LegacyUserGroup mailing list > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > To manage your subscription and unsubscribe > > http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com > > Archives at: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > > > Cathy Pinner <mailto:[email protected]> > > Sunday, 23 April 2017 9:55 AM > > Barry, > > > > Church Records include Baptisms, Burials and Marriages. The records > > are recorded in Church Registers or "record books" in Legacy speak. > > So you're looking for Church records > Church record books > created > > at local level (parish, congregation, meeting, etc) > and then the > > format you've used. I've chosen to use the Microfilm/fiche rather than > > online images as I've seem some at the Archives on microfilm in a rare > > visit to England and some online. > > I use the Film ID in the Master Source to acknowledge both sources: > > eg: Images courtesy of South West Heritage Trust & Parochial Church > > Council & FindMyPast > > I actually make a Master Source for each church but I could have > > instead chosen to make a Master Source for each Archive. > > In my case: Dorset History Centre, the London Metropolitan Archives, etc. > > I learn where the registers actually are arc hived. > > > > So one Master Source reads: St Margaret (Topsham, Devon, England); > > Images courtesy of South West Heritage Trust and Parochial Church > > Council & FindMyPast, Devon Heritage Centre, Exeter. > > and a source citation: > > St Margaret (Topsham, Devon, England), "Marriages 1417A/PR/1/15 > > 1837-1881," Page 1, No 1 1837 marriage of William Harris & Rebecca > > Mawditt; Images courtesy of South West Heritage Trust and Parochial > > Church Council & FindMyPast, Devon Heritage Centre, Exeter. > > > > This "1417A/PR/1/15" is the Archive reference for that particular > > register. If it's not obvious on the online site, I look at the > > Archive catalogue and find it and also record their microfilm number, > > if any is given. At the archives you can usually only see parish > > registers on microfilm - and probably now the online images. > > > > The Source Detail has a "Title" field for the name of the actual > > register ( or church and register if you chose to have one Master > > Source for Devon Heritage Centre) > > Then one for Item of interest where I record the page and record > > number from the register etc > > > > Here's one for Dorset: Saint Lawrence (Folke, Dorset, England), > > "Christenings PE/FOL/RE 2/1 1813-1906," p 1, no 3 baptism of George > > Uppill (1813); Images courtesy DHC and Ancestry.com; DHC microfilm > > MIC/R/511, Dorset History Centre, Dorchester. > > > > Does that help? > > Cathy > > > > Barry Godbeer wrote: > > Barry Godbeer <mailto:[email protected]> > > Sunday, 23 April 2017 5:39 AM > > I am having a hard time finding the a appropriate Source Writer for > > Baptisms in various counties in England and Wales. > > > > The Source Writer for Church Records mentions nothing about Baptisms, > > unless I have developed tunnel vision, and it is there right under my > > nose. > > > > My OS is Microsoft Vista and my LFT is 8.0.0.598. Must update computer > > soon! > > > > As attachments are not allowed I will try to explain my problem. > > > > I have an image of a Baptism, viewed in Findmypast, in the Parish of > > Lower Brixham (Devon, England) that has a page number and an entry > > number with a reference to South West Heritage Trust and Parochial > > Church Council in the left margin. > > > > The transcript, copyright of Findmypast, has, besides the name of the > > individual, date of Baptism, father and mother,etc it list the > > location of the Baptism as Brixham, All Saints (not mentioned on the > > image), the Archive as South West Heritage Trust (no mention of the > > Parochial Church Council), an archive reference (1955A/PR/1/1) that > > makes no mention of the page number or line number and whose archive > > reference is it? > > > > For sourcing purposes who holds the original Baptism document, the > > Parochial Church Council, South West Heritage Trust or Findmypast? > > Only the South West Heritage Trust and Findmypast have URLs. In years > > to come which of the three will still be around? > > > > Do I select Source Writer>Church Records>Church Record Books>created > > at local level (parish, congregation, meetings, etc and do I do the > > best I can with that? The Source Detail related to this Master Source > > is not very informative. > > > > To date I have not attached any images or transcripts to any sources > > or citations which might help complete the picture of the source, but > > that's another To Do Task. > > > > So does anyone have any suggestions? Has anyone with ancestors in > > England come up with a solution that makes sense? > > > > Barry Godbeer > > > > Canada > > > -- > > LegacyUserGroup mailing list > [email protected] > To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/ > mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com > Archives at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > -- > > LegacyUserGroup mailing list > [email protected] > To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/ > mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com > Archives at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > -- Richard Young 480.220.7391 [email protected] www.familyhistorytech.com @fhtek
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