Thanks John for this.
I'm now making my own outliner for interactive documentation, kind of a
combination of Leo and IPython but in pharo smalltalk, so I'm using Leo
less, but the community and its talks are a permanent source of inspiration.
Cheers,
Offray
On 30/08/15 15:23, john lunzer wrote:
A new user recently said to me, "Leo is powerful and flexible -- and
complex and bewildering". This is true. I believe it is always the
goal of developers to make their software less complex and bewildering
but keep in mind that Leo has been in development for over 20 years
and has ~1.5 million lines of code (IIRC). This puts it right up there
with Vim and Emacs in terms of maturity. My own experience with Vim
and Emacs have been quite similar to my experience with Leo. All three
are powerful and flexible and complex and bewildering in their own right.
I believe with tools of this weight and impact, there will always be
an investment in learning them. They're all vast forests of features
filled with hidden treasures and in the case of each of them he/she
that invests in the tool will be rewarded for their effort. It is,
however, the responsibility of the community (led by the developers)
to help make that treasure hunt as enjoyable and adventurous as
possible, as any good treasure hunt should be.
And this is where Leo does not falter, in the helpfulness of its
community (small though it may be). I will reiterate what Edward has
said many times, do not struggle on your own if you are lost,
confused, or bewildered. Please ask questions. If the documentation or
examples do not meet your needs, please ask questions. In my own
experience as a once new user (though there may be the occasional
disagreement) you will not be chided, scorned, or belittled but will
be met with more even more help than you originally asked for.
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