On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 05:39:29PM -0800, Paul Rogers wrote:
> Apologies, I fumbled this reply a moment ago.  It wasn't ready and
> should be removed.
> 
> > We've never been completely minimalist.
> 
> Neither am I!  But my mantra is KISS; above impatience.  I really don't
> care about boot times.  That's never more than a miniscule fraction of
> my total wait time.
> 
> Sytemd definitely violates my idea of KISS!  I'm sticking with SysV.
> 
> Nobody uses my boxes but me.  I've never seen any point to extended
> attributes, nor ACLs.  Just more complications for what gain?  Why does
> LFS base need them--the book doesn't explain,
> 
> > If we were, we'd remove vim, among others.
> 
> Yeah, I've only used it a few times, under extreme duress.  But there
> needs to be *some* editor in the LFS base, and vim is expected.
> 
If you use ed (I remember that Bill used to use that), then I salute
you.  But for any other value of $EDITOR[¹] I will have to accuse you
of heresy on three counts : heresy by thought, heresy by word,
heresy by deed, and heresy by action -- *four* counts. [2]

Whatever, Your System, Your Rules - but as Bruce noted, things in
BLFS might need the things you were really complaining about.  And
yes, I still think they are a waste of space on most of my LFS
systems (ISTR something in kde needed them), but it is more
important to try to keep our variations together - we are severely
under-staffed.  For most people, the space and extra build time used
by these packages is immaterial.

Oh, and Happy Xmas.

ĸen

[1] On a freebsd list recently, somebody mentioned using the
 SYSIN DD
statement in IBM JCL as a minimal editor, but that isn't really
something to do in a 'nix system.

[2] Waddya mean, you didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition or
Python ?

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