Hi Jerry, Yes, I did run the build script. I also committed libcloud.html built within site-publish/projects just now.
Thanks, Eric W. On Dec 1, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Jerry Chen wrote: > Hi Eric, > > Did you run ant/build.sh at the top-level to generate the html files as well? > > Cheers, > Jerry > > > On Dec 1, 2010, at 1:07 PM, Eric Woods wrote: > >> Gav, I updated the committer list with my information. I committed the >> change... hoping to see the site updated shortly. >> >> Thanks, >> Eric W. >> >> >> On Nov 28, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Gav... wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: ant elder [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Sunday, 28 November 2010 7:31 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [libcloud] [VOTE] - Libcloud to become a TLP. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Gav... <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> >>>>> This is a chance for the libcloud community and committers to >>>>> vote on whether or not you think we are ready to become an >>>>> ASF top level project. In other words, the community thinks >>>>> it has learned all it can from the Incubator, and that we feel >>>>> we are following the guidelines learned along the way. >>>>> >>>>> Please vote now, we have plenty of time until the next board >>>>> meeting is due in which a resolution would be required, so we'll >>>>> leave this open for 1 week to gather as many votes as possible. >>>>> >>>>> [ ] - +1 - yes please, we are ready to become a TLP. >>>>> >>>>> [ ] - -/+0 - Not that opinionated either way. >>>>> >>>>> [ ] - -1 - no , I don't think we are ready , because ... >>>>> >>>>> Note any -1 must be accompanied by a detailed explanation. >>>>> >>>>> This vote will close one week from today. >>>>> >>>>> Gav... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> I'm -1 for the reasons described at: >>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator- >>>> libcloud/201011.mbox/%3CAANLkTim8ViOH3-D9TVbpUbgySTjWXns- >>>> [email protected]%3e >>> >>> Well, let's bring those reasons here: >>> >>> Quote: "... >>> >>> [1]I'm not sure I'm convinced there's nothing more to be learnt here. >>> Dealing with what to do with the Java impl would help at least >>> demonstrate the community can deal with an awkward situation, just >>> leaving it in the sandbox seems like a holding pattern to me. >>> >>> [2] But even if thats not done i don't get the warm fuzzy feeling that the >>> libcloud >>> community has learnt the Apache Way yet. It would be nice to see not >>> just the same one person doing all the releases, all the committer >>> nominations, most of the commits etc, even with graduation there >>> hasn't been any real discussion that i've seen about what the >>> graduation requirements are and why they've been met. >>> >>> [3]If for some reason you were unable to continue here Paul i'm not seeing >>> much >>> evidence that the others would know all the ropes to continue. What do >>> mentors/others think about this? >>> >>> ..." >>> >>> I've split them into 1,2,3 and address them here: >>> >>> [1] - Paul has already explained this to my satisfaction. A sandbox area is >>> fine for >>> the java impl. The project need not have took it at all but they did. Mainly >>> one person >>> works on this area currently and is happy with its progress. The whole of a >>> projects >>> code need not be in a state of release for it to graduate from the >>> incubator. Accepting >>> the code and granting committer status and an area for this to be developed >>> shows >>> that the community dealt with the situation just fine. >>> >>> [2] - One person doing the releases is fine for now. I know plenty of other >>> podlings that >>> graduated with only one RM - in some cases with only one release. I know >>> plenty of >>> Top Level Projects that have had the same RM for years. I am involved with >>> one such project. >>> Over time, other committers will learn to see and nominate prospective >>> committers, again not >>> a big deal IMHO and not something that other podlings have been delayed for. >>> Commit diversity: http://www.ohloh.net/p/libcloud/contributors?page=1 shows >>> 16 committers - yes >>> Paul has done more than anyone else, but 316 out of 694 is less than half >>> total commits. Again >>> I can show you many many projects where one committer has more than double >>> the next person, and >>> especially when the project first starts out, that is just the way it is, >>> nothing to worry >>> about IMHO. >>> I am going to agree with you with regard to graduation requirements to a >>> point. It is up to the >>> Mentors I feel to point out and help address these requirements if they are >>> not being met. We >>> have been mostly hands off Mentors - which is fine, but it does show that >>> the project in the >>> main has been moving along by itself. >>> >>> As both you and I have mentioned before, the only thing I can see that I >>> would like addressed >>> is the question of diversity - would someone who is not a mentor please edit >>> the document >>> at http://incubator.apache.org/projects/libcloud.html and put down your >>> employer if your >>> employer is paying you to work on this project, otherwise simply write >>> 'independent' beside >>> your name. I will hold back my vote until this is done. >>> >>> [3] - I don't want to speculate or penalise a project for something that >>> might or might not >>> happen in the future and especially not knowing the state of the project or >>> the knowledge >>> of the other committers at that time should it happen. It would be wrong to >>> hold a -1 to >>> graduation based on this. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> So summary then Ant to your questions, I think overall I am satisfied with >>> the project and its >>> committers readiness to graduate. In places I think you are perhaps being a >>> little too strict >>> though I completely understand your reasonings. I guess I have a more >>> liberal view of the >>> incubator as a whole, and comparing libcloud with other projects that I know >>> to have graduated >>> or failed, I feel they are generally in good stead, if a little lazy on the >>> paperwork. >>> >>> If I see that the http://incubator.apache.org/projects/libcloud.html page >>> gets updated correctly >>> as I have asked before the deadline, then my +1 will be forthcoming. >>> >>> >>> Gav... >>> >>> >>>> >>>> ...ant >>> >>> >> >
