phryk: > On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 21:17:16 +0000 > Jacob Appelbaum <[email protected]> wrote: > >> This is a false dichotomy of an argument if ever I've heard one. I >> keep hearing it too. It bums me out to no end. >> >> I understand that removing ourselves from specific discussions removes >> our voices from those discussions. However, I see no reason why the >> greater discussion itself is confined to that specific space at that >> specific time. Who decided that? At best, we do when we engage with it >> despite very serious and very reasonable misgivings. > > Of course the greater discussion isn't confined to the OHM Camp but my > understanding is that the mentioned discussion is specific to that > event. And at least for me it will be also the next chance to meet any > of the people here. >
A lot of the context is related but not entirely specific. >> We should work to create a space that is on level footing; we should >> not engage seriously with spaces that demonstrate otherwise so >> blatantly. >> >> I'm sure that OHM will be worth attending but let us not have the >> illusion that it presents an ideal safe space for such discussions. >> Let us also be clear that OHM is not the only place for such >> discussions nor is by any means the only place that the community is >> able to hold such discussions. > > Personally, I'm not aware of any place that would fit that description, > but it is at least a place where a bunch of the people here will be > able to meet in person. The 30th CCC Congress is likely to be such a space. Alternatively, we could create a new space that talks about the issues at hand. All the best, Jacob -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at [email protected] or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
