Sorry, but why would 30c3 be this place and not any other venue in the world? Without context this sounds silly.
2013/6/25 Jacob Appelbaum <[email protected]> > phryk: > > On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 21:17:16 +0000 > > Jacob Appelbaum <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> This is a false dichotomy of an argument if ever I've heard one. I > >> keep hearing it too. It bums me out to no end. > >> > >> I understand that removing ourselves from specific discussions removes > >> our voices from those discussions. However, I see no reason why the > >> greater discussion itself is confined to that specific space at that > >> specific time. Who decided that? At best, we do when we engage with it > >> despite very serious and very reasonable misgivings. > > > > Of course the greater discussion isn't confined to the OHM Camp but my > > understanding is that the mentioned discussion is specific to that > > event. And at least for me it will be also the next chance to meet any > > of the people here. > > > > A lot of the context is related but not entirely specific. > > >> We should work to create a space that is on level footing; we should > >> not engage seriously with spaces that demonstrate otherwise so > >> blatantly. > >> > >> I'm sure that OHM will be worth attending but let us not have the > >> illusion that it presents an ideal safe space for such discussions. > >> Let us also be clear that OHM is not the only place for such > >> discussions nor is by any means the only place that the community is > >> able to hold such discussions. > > > > Personally, I'm not aware of any place that would fit that description, > > but it is at least a place where a bunch of the people here will be > > able to meet in person. > > The 30th CCC Congress is likely to be such a space. Alternatively, we > could create a new space that talks about the issues at hand. > > All the best, > Jacob > -- > Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by > emailing moderator at [email protected] or changing your settings at > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech > -- With kind regards, Jurre van Bergen
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