Nice try at a deflection Paul, but it ain't working. Let me try this again. I'll be very specific.
There were active libertarians in the political process in the 1960s and early 1970s. Since no Libertarian Party existed at the time, and since all these libertarians were active in the GOP, does that make them "illegitamate libertarians"? --- In [email protected], "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Libertarians have existed for thousands of years. The LP does not > define libertarianism. Whether or not libertarians were in the major > parties before there was a Libertarian Party is irrelevant. There IS > a libertarian now, and no libertarian on earth would join the > Republican or Democratic parties right now. There is not a single > libertarian in the GOP, and that includes Ron Paul because he's > working against the cause of liberty despite his intentions. He's > trying to get the train to reverse directions by facing the back of > the train and shoveling in coal, but all he's doing is speeding up the > train in the opposite direction of liberty. > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Explain something to me could you please Paul. > > > > Are you aware that the Libertarian Party was founded on December 11, > > 1971 in Colorado Springs, Colorado? Actually, it was a paper > > organization for basically a year. So, in effect it was really > > founded in 1972. > > > > If you posit that "no real libertarian would ever join the > > Republican Party..." what does that say for all the libertarians in > > the world who existed before 1972? > > > > Really, you could say, 1974 or 1975, because outside of Washington > > State and Colorado (the 2 States where the LP was organized), hardly > > anyone had even heard of the LP til about 1975/76. > > > > Historically, Roger MacBride has the distinction of being the very > > first human being ever to run for public office as a "libertarian." > > In 1966, Roger, then a Vermont Legislator ran for Governor in the > > GOP primaries. And in ever press interview he said that he was > > a "libertarian." > > > > How do you explain libertarians pre-1972 (really pre-1976), who ran > > for office in the GOP as "libertarians"? After all there was no > > Libertarian Party in existence. > > > > Was Roger MacBride and others like him, "not really libertarians?" > > > > Come to think of it, Murray Rothbard himself was very active in the > > Republican Party in the 1950s. Him too? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > There isn't a real libertarian on earth that would join the > > Republican > > > Party under any circumstances; nor would they join the Democratic > > > Party or support a socialist anti-semite like Cindy Sheehan. Even > > > though she tells the truth about her son dying in vain while not > > > defending America (just as nobody else in the U.S. military > > stationed > > > in Iraq is defending America or upholding thier oath) and violating > > > the Constitution, and she was totally right about Bush, she still > > > isn't a libertarian. > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Don't laugh. Some LPers in New York are apparently trying to > > get her > > > > to run on their ticket against Hillary for US Senate in 2006. > > > > > > > > Could a 2008 run be far behind? > > > > > > > > This would be the final death knell for the once mighty > > Libertarian > > > > Party. Would split the LP right down the middle. And most > > rational > > > > LPers would leave and join the GOP. > > > > > > > > The ultimate swing to the hard-Left for the LP. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/VpgUKB/pzNLAA/cUmLAA/KlSolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
