Only a few companies were given the opportunity to profit from the 
war in Vietnam and Iraq. The government contracts only a few 
companies. That is not capitalism. The economic system in the U.S. 
is not capitalism. It never has been. Even immediately after the 
American Revolution although in many ways it close, the U.S. was not 
a capitalist economy. Absolute socialism or communism has also as 
far as I know not existed. The USSR was not by Marx's definition a 
communist system. There were 2 classes in the USSR, the government 
class and everyone else.

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--- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> NO? What about Vietnam war, which was to secure  profits for USA 
companies? What about war in Iraq? You think this is a communistic 
adventure?Capitalism always leads to war over the markets, or you 
would be  destroyed by your competition.  
> Since when in capitalism people peacefully share anything or  give 
a ach other  piece of a market pie? 
> When talking about political system, you need to consider  where 
it leads to.  A boxing match is not a solo dance on a stage. 
> Anna
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Paul 
>   To: [email protected] 
>   Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 9:31 AM
>   Subject: [Libertarian] Re: the truth....
> 
> 
>   Not one person in the history of the world has ever 
been "harmed" by
>   capitalism.  Those who accept a job are accepting the pay and the
>   risks involved in performing it.  
> 
>   And for the record, there is no such thing as altruism.  Each and
>   every single thing that people do or don't do is in their own
>   self-interests...namely to either gain pleasure, or to avoid 
pain.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   --- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   >
>   > The answer is simple: libertarianism which  advocates  for self
>   governing within  just one  law of "no harm" .
>   > You do not need other laws, but this one. All decision  would 
be
>   founded on this law. So, if you want to open factory, you need to
>   answer this question first: is product and the working 
conditions in
>   any way harmful to others. The system you will be creating by 
making
>   such informed decisions would naturally be altruistic. 
>   > There would be then no need for the government. 
>   > Anna
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   >   From: mark robert 
>   >   To: [email protected] 
>   >   Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 10:43 PM
>   >   Subject: RE: [Libertarian] Re: the truth....
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   Anna,
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   You say ALL those things are against individual freedom. 
What do
>   >   you propose?
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   -Mark
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   >     _____  
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   Sure. Just look at the results of this dubious prosperity. 
You
>   >   argument about superiority of capitalism has no evidence.
>   >   Anyway, neither socialism or capitalism or communism  should 
be
>   >   proposed  by a libertarian. They all are against individual
>   >   freedom.
>   > 
>   >   Anna
>   > 
>   > 
>   >     _____  
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