What you are talking about is a subculture. USA has no culture. My background is art history. Anna ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 6:46 PM Subject: [Libertarian] Re: the truth....
The U.S. most certainly has culture. It is a culture of excellence. It is a culture of diversity. It is a culture of creativity. It is historically a culture of freedom and despite the efforts of some is still vastly more free than any other industrialized nation on earth. Where do you think Rock & Roll was invented? Where was the assembly line created? What nation has the best films? (and don't even try to claim it's anywhere in Europe or India because you'll be laughed at) Where was Jazz created? Virtually every great invention in the last 150 years has come from America. We also have some of the best artists in music, film, stage, painting, poetry, etc. America has a culture that embraces the best in all things and makes it our own. The very best Mexicans, Black, Irish, Italians, Russians, Chinese, Indian, Persian, etc. people aren't in Mexico, Africa, Ireland, Italy, Russia, China, India, Iran, or anywhere else. They are right here in America. They got tired of their situation and instead of whining about it, they came here to work and build something better. The most productive, intelligent, hard-working, dedicated, and talented people on earth come to America for a chance to make it on thier own talents. Many would run through a hail of bullets merely for the chance to vote and to live under capitalism. These people are usually the ones in communist or socialist nations. Because people are rewarded under capitalism, the best artists, doctors, lawyers, engineers, writers, scientists, and others come here where their dedication and hard work will pay off. Every member of the Bolshoi Ballet would have given up everything they had for the chance to be a regular dancer on Broadway. --- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Under communism, art flourished. For example, neither Bolshoi Ballet nor Kirow could ever achieve the artistic excellence they had when they were not "free". What killed art, was capitalism, or rather a change of goals, from a spiritual/artistic, to PROFITS FIRST. > Do you think USA has culture? > Please note, that culture is a foundation of every enlightened society. > Anna > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mark robert > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 6:42 AM > Subject: RE: [Libertarian] Re: the truth.... > > > Anna, > > > > A gold-based economy is yet another topic. For purposes of this > discussion, money is a scorecard for the amount of goods/services > produced. In that sense, capitalism "values" art; artists are > some of the richest people. Are you also trying to say that this > system doesn't value the spiritual? Wrong again. Capitalism > values anything that people value - the more free the market, the > less the difference. If you disagree, please point to > non-capitalist places that have bigger churches or more people > with more time and money to pursue all sorts of traditional and > non-traditional "spiritual" goals. > > > > -Mark > > > > > > _____ > > This would be only correct if money was backed by the real goods. > > Otherwise money is as good as the paper it is written one. > This is actually the situation that USA is now in. > > What about other values? A good model must also acknowledge > spiritual needs. > Where does an artist fit in your society? > Anna > > > > > _____ > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian > > > > SPONSORED LINKS E government Libertarian E government strategy > Libertarian party E government procurement > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "Libertarian" on the web. > > b.. 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