Abortions have been with us always. There is a whole ancient pharmacopeia of plants used for abortion that Egyptians had. The laws preventing abortion are relatively new. So, we can talk about the phenomena as it was when unregulated. The art of disposing of unwanted babies has been always with us in addition to such other options such as throwing a newborn from a high rock into a sea. Eventually, when human consciousness was able to achieve the point in time when it became less barbaric and more aware of suffering of others besides themselves; of existence of a psyche and consciousness itself [ Jung not long ago, in 1950' and previously Fraud] laws were created first to prevent slavery, then to prevent abuse of children and eventually of the unborn. Not long ago, parents were still allowed to kill their own children for any act of disobedience. In the 19th century England, 4 years old children were used as chimney sweepers dying often before the age of 8 of tuberculosis or other lung disease. The child slavery still continues with us being present in many countries, and children as young as 5 sold are into prostitution. This alone shows you, that under liberal conditions, people not necessary act better. Many laws followed the realization that we cannot count on humans to be righteous. Nevertheless, if you make just one NO HARM law, everything else will be covered and at the same time, you will educate people because you will force them to think what is what. Anna
----- Original Message ----- From: mark robert To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 9:00 AM Subject: RE: objective vs subjective Re: [Libertarian] Re: Socialism/Capitalism of the Author There's your unreasonable fear of human nature (as dark) again. I disagree with your dark prediction. Especially since you make no qualification on "mothers will be killing", implying "all" mothers. It's the myth that social freedom will bring chaos. _____ < The issue is tough, unique, marginal, and endlessly contentious - but that is precisely why to leave legislation and enforcement out of it and leave the burden on the shoulders of the mother.. If you do that, mothers will be killing their one week premature babies claiming that they still are parasites. Yet today, the youngest baby every born to survive was born at 4.5 month of pregnancy as opposed to the normal 9 month. Saying that this is none of my business would only support such crimes. At the same time, I am pro abortion up to the 3rd month of pregnancy. Anna _____ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian SPONSORED LINKS E government Libertarian E government strategy Libertarian party E government procurement ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "Libertarian" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/KlSolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
