I was told my unborn son that he would be born prematurely, and he was. What
language? In dreams and telepathically. If you think that there is only one
language in this world and it must be spoken, you lack education. Sound is not
the best nor the fastest way to send or receive information. Minds are faster
than the speed of light etc....
I did what my unborn son asked me for, diet, rest and everything else. This
is why he made it. He taught me how. My son as born at 6 month, 3 month
prematurely, but alive and healthy.
On the same ward there were babies born at 5 month and one at 4.5 month. At the
age, when to some of you, a baby is still a fetus, or a worm
which can be aborted. Nevertheless, babies at 4.5 month did have brains and
could dream and communicate with their parents the moment they left the womb.
And they were fully conscious and aware too.
I think that the issue of abortion should be left to women to decide.
Nevertheless, the decisions must be made on the basis of humanitarian approach
to life. But you are defining an unborn child as a parasite and a worm. It is
more than obvious that without this fake definition, you would have to call it
a murder.
Do not gte me wrong though. I am for abortion up to a certain age, when there
is no brain yet and no mind, thus no person. But I strongly believe that once
a fetus has a developed brain, it becomes an individual person. Only very
defective babies should be removed then. I do not believe that society should
support birth of defective people. Nevertheless, this would be up to the
courts or doctors to decide individual cases.
Even a libertarian society must be founded on laws. A law not to kill, a law
not to steal and so on....
What is your moral reason to exempt unborn babies from it?
Any person which makes unprotected sex with another person, should understands
that what he is doing, is reproducing life. The purpose of life is to
reproduce and protect life. This is your only natural law you have, yet you
are rejecting it as a fancy.
Anna
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 11:47 AM
Subject: objective vs subjective Re: [Libertarian] Re: Socialism/Capitalism
of the Author
Actually it's BECAUSE she was a pregnant woman, that she can't look at
the situation logically and objectively. She was the one who kept
insisting on empirical evidence, yet she is using anectdotal evidence
which is worthless.
Ask her what language the fetus communicated to her in. Most likely
she'll suggest something wholly unscientific like a "feeling" or say,
"My baby wanted to eat veggies and I don't like veggies but I had to
have them" as though that were actually the case or were actually
valid proof. She'll ignore the fact that her own body craves certain
vitamins or minerals when she's got a deficiency of them and that
those are being drained from her by the parasite in her womb and that
this has nothing to do with "communication".
--- In [email protected], "mark robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Anna,
>
>
>
> Nope, never been with child; wrong gender for that. So I can not
> fully appreciate the subjective experiences involved. But I hope
> my gender does not automatically disqualify me from expressing my
> views on this, as you imply. You might have a better point if
> fewer women took my viewpoint. Obviously, there are plenty of
> females that agree with my viewpoints and disagree with yours.
> Yours fall far short of championing women's rights.
>
>
>
> Anyway.When you were pregnant and communicated with your unborn
> son, what did he tell you he wanted? Did you give it to him? What
> did he tell you he did not want? Did you oblige?
>
>
>
> In fact, that begs the question of whether you violated your own
> positions while you were pregnant. Let's find out. Did you ever
> engage in any behavior that was less than perfectly healthy? Did
> you ever smoke anything? Did you stay away from all second-hand
> smoke? Did you stay away from all air pollution? Did you stay
> away from all loud noise and rock music? Did you drink any
> alcohol? Did you take any drugs? Did you eat any
> less-than-perfectly-healthy food? Did you eat enough food? Did
> you eat too much food? Did you get enough exercise? If so, did
> you exercise properly? Were you too sedentary? Did you always sit
> properly? Did you work (too much)? Did you drive? Did you ever
> break the speed limit? Did you get enough rest? Did you get too
> much rest? Did you get regular checkups? Did you first check the
> credentials of your doc? During delivery, did you present any
> extra risk to your baby in exchange for your own reduced risk or
> pain?
>
>
>
> To answer these questions, you will not need a lawyer present.
> Not yet anyway. Not until your positions become law and someone
> calls in a complaint alleging you are violating the rights of
> your next fetus.
>
>
>
> -Mark
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> Mark, were you ever pregnant with a child? If not, how can you
> even try to express such opinions regarding whether a baby has
> any desires before it is born.I think the biggest problem with
> the abortion issue is that men want to decide about it.
> As a woman and a mother I can tell you that I had communicated
> with my son very well during my pregnancy.
> Annd there is no mother in the world who will tell you that you
> are right.
>
> Nevertheless I am bothered by your desire to give women a card
> blanche on killing her unborn children at any time during
> pregnancy on a pretext that this is a libertarian choice. I
> consider it a permission to murder. Once a brain of a fetus is
> formed, it has mind becoming an individual, and a subject to
> protection under criminal law.
>
> Anna
>
>
> _____
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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