It does not disqualify you from making opinion, just like the fact I am woman is not disqualifying me from describing the effects of a removed prostate. <;- Anna
----- Original Message ----- From: mark robert To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 9:12 AM Subject: RE: objective vs subjective Re: [Libertarian] Re: Socialism/Capitalism of the Author Anna, Nope, never been with child; wrong gender for that. So I can not fully appreciate the subjective experiences involved. But I hope my gender does not automatically disqualify me from expressing my views on this, as you imply. You might have a better point if fewer women took my viewpoint. Obviously, there are plenty of females that agree with my viewpoints and disagree with yours. Yours fall far short of championing women's rights. Anyway.When you were pregnant and communicated with your unborn son, what did he tell you he wanted? Did you give it to him? What did he tell you he did not want? Did you oblige? In fact, that begs the question of whether you violated your own positions while you were pregnant. Let's find out. Did you ever engage in any behavior that was less than perfectly healthy? Did you ever smoke anything? Did you stay away from all second-hand smoke? Did you stay away from all air pollution? Did you stay away from all loud noise and rock music? Did you drink any alcohol? Did you take any drugs? Did you eat any less-than-perfectly-healthy food? Did you eat enough food? Did you eat too much food? Did you get enough exercise? If so, did you exercise properly? Were you too sedentary? Did you always sit properly? Did you work (too much)? Did you drive? Did you ever break the speed limit? Did you get enough rest? Did you get too much rest? Did you get regular checkups? Did you first check the credentials of your doc? During delivery, did you present any extra risk to your baby in exchange for your own reduced risk or pain? To answer these questions, you will not need a lawyer present. Not yet anyway. Not until your positions become law and someone calls in a complaint alleging you are violating the rights of your next fetus. -Mark _____ Mark, were you ever pregnant with a child? If not, how can you even try to express such opinions regarding whether a baby has any desires before it is born.I think the biggest problem with the abortion issue is that men want to decide about it. As a woman and a mother I can tell you that I had communicated with my son very well during my pregnancy. Annd there is no mother in the world who will tell you that you are right. Nevertheless I am bothered by your desire to give women a card blanche on killing her unborn children at any time during pregnancy on a pretext that this is a libertarian choice. I consider it a permission to murder. Once a brain of a fetus is formed, it has mind becoming an individual, and a subject to protection under criminal law. Anna _____ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian SPONSORED LINKS E government Libertarian E government strategy Libertarian party E government procurement ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "Libertarian" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/KlSolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
