If we are to have a majority rule AND apply what you've suggested here then things would still be Christian and not Muslim.
--- Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The 1st amendment isn't "weakened" by school prayer, > it's utterly > violated. The 1st amendment is not merely to > prevent a government > sanctioned religion (which is what this is), it's > here to keep all > government out of religion and all religion out of > government. The > United States Government and its laws didn't come > from Judeo-Christian > ethics, biblical teachings, or monotheism. They > came from natural law > and secular morality. > > I'm an atheist, and I say if we're going to have any > religious > doctrine posted in courthouses, that it only be > Muslim teachings, and > prayers in school only if they're on prayer rugs > pointed toward Mecca, > and our money should say "Allah be Praised" instead > of "In God We > Trust". And when you go to court, you should swear > on the Quran. > > How about that? This is equally appropriate as > what's happening right > now. > > > > --- In [email protected], "justo" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Mark, it is whining. The 1st Amend is not at all > weakened by school > > prayer, plays, or what-ever. As long as the State > does not back a > > religion, there is no issue here. If it' your tax > dollars that concerns > > you and how they are being misspent by local and > Federal Gov. you're > > overlooking the many other public school waste > that's going on right > > under your nose. > > > > I'm an atheist, so there's no reason for me to > defend any particular > > religion or school prayer or 10C's on some > court-house. I simply don't > > see the threat of "modern" Christians, Muslims, > Jews, etc. wanting to > > place their mark on society in one way or another. > As long the State > > does not impose or spend your tax dollars to this > end, the 1st Amend is > > not at all being eroded in any way. > > > > Property rights should be our focus; the corner > stone of our liberty. > > And, when I say property rights. I mean in every > regard; both tangible > > and intangible. We should focus our attention of > the core issues that > > erode that freedom. "coercion" by special groups > who want entitlements > > and special laws that favor them and achieve all > this by tamping into > > our pockets with all sorts of tax schemes. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Justo > > <http://www.NuGamers.com> www.NuGamers.com > > Kingwood & Woodlands, Tx. Game Club > > > > "Life, Liberty, & Property Rights." > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of mark robert > > Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 3:40 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: [Libertarian] Re: Fwd: The "W" In > Christmas > > > > Justo, > > > > > > > > I agree that discussing getting the gov out of > schools and ending > > their "schemes" is important. But I disagree that > discussing what > > qualifies as a violation of the fist part of the > first amendment > > is "whining". > > > > > > > > -Mark > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > You're not the only one paying for the public > schools and it > > really makes no sense to > > equate separation of church and state with a > Christmas school > > play or > > what ever that was. There's a huge difference > between State > > sanctioned > > religion and a Christmas show on a public school > stage. > > > > IMHO, this is picking pepper out of fly-sh!t and > only ;ends > > itself to > > entertain us. The subject of substance that should > be addressed > > is > > coercive tax schemes used to fund public > education. > > Unfortunately, we > > all prefer to go on whining about church & state > issues, from > > both > > sides, than take the necessary steps to end social > engineering > > taxation > > schemes. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Justo > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > ForumWebSiteAt > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > > Libertarian > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Libertarian&w1=Libertarian&w2=Engli > > > sh+language&w3=Political+parties&w4=Online+dictionary&w5=American+politi > > cs&c=5&s=108&.sig=jGQnaRhfv4RQgZXyK4kr1w> > > English > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=English+language&w1=Libertarian&w2= > > > English+language&w3=Political+parties&w4=Online+dictionary&w5=American+p > > olitics&c=5&s=108&.sig=QWSjIRDd7cCvA3JjWf5fnQ> > language > > Political > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Political+parties&w1=Libertarian&w2 > > > =English+language&w3=Political+parties&w4=Online+dictionary&w5=American+ > > politics&c=5&s=108&.sig=Nmlb2J_kcrDDcS9fz-a4eg> > parties > > > > Online > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Online+dictionary&w1=Libertarian&w2 > > > =English+language&w3=Political+parties&w4=Online+dictionary&w5=American+ > > politics&c=5&s=108&.sig=tfMLc2NuNqcAdgFcVdgR3Q> > dictionary > > American > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=American+politics&w1=Libertarian&w2 > > > =English+language&w3=Political+parties&w4=Online+dictionary&w5=American+ > > politics&c=5&s=108&.sig=Q4Bxp3h_3TNlBQAgwWP-kw> > politics > > > > > > _____ > > > > YAHOO! 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