I am saying Muslim extremists (there are no Islamofascists)hate
America because they have lost hundreds and hundreds of thousands of
family members, friends, and countrymen because of our foreign policy
and thier attacks have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with our cultural
values, our capitalism, our women, gay people, Jews, or anything else.
 I'm not giving you my opinion, I'm stating a fact.

Theo Van Gogh wasn't a member of "us".  Why do you keep mentioning him
as though he were American.  Muslims attack Americans for the foreign
policy of America.  They attacked Van Gogh because he was openly
critical of their religion, and his stance was that of an intolerant 
asshole, like the stance of people who use the term "Islamofascist".  

I don't know if you remember this but Russia killed millions of 
Muslims during the 70's at the same time America was also killing them, 
training and arming monsters like Bin Laden, overthrowing a 
democracy, and propping up several brutal murdering dictators.  Even 
more Chechens were murdered by Russia when Yeltsin launched a full-
scale invasion of Chechnya to stop their independence.  So once 
again, Muslims were were retaliating for the murder of thier own people.  

You can blame Yeltsin for the death of those children and you can
blame Bush for the deaths of everyone even remotely related to the war
in Iraq on both sides of the dispute, and those who were beheaded, and
killed on trains.


--- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> So Tom, let me get this straight.  Are you saying that the Islamo-
> Fascists hate us because of our foreign policy?  Has nothing to do 
> with our cultural values?
> 
> How about Theo van Gogh?  Was he killed because the "wicked Dutch 
> Imperialists" were intervening all over the Middle East?  
> 
> How about all the Gays, Lesbians, Marijuana smokers, other 
> Alternative lifestyles advocates, Jews and even at times Christians 
> in Western Europe who are being attacked on a daily basis by Muslim 
> youth?
> 
> If I remember correctly, France opposed the War in Iraq, and 
> fiercely have been in opposition to American foreign policy for 
> decades?
> 
> How about the attack on the schoolchildren in Russia?  Didn't the 
> Russians also oppose American interventions in the Middle East?  Why 
> did they deserve over a hundred of their babies being slaughtered by 
> Muslim terrorists?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Thomas L. Knapp" 
> <thomaslknapp@> wrote:
> >
> > Quoth Geof Gibson:
> > 
> > > It is simple.  If Islamofascists have their way, the LP, and this
> > > discussion will be over, and we will be killed.
> > 
> > And if the Flat Earth Society has its way, you'll have to fly west 
> if
> > you want to go to Tokyo, because everyone will know that if you fly
> > east you'll go off the edge of the world.
> > 
> > Granted, the Islamists are more violent than the Flat Earth 
> Society --
> > but they're no more likely to be successful, especially if the US
> > knocks their support base out from under them by ceasing to fuck
> > around in affairs to which it is not legitimately a party.
> > 
> > Tom Knapp
> >
>








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