Paul, we're never going to solve this. We are going to keep going round and round and round and round. You and others here see the federal government, particularly the government headed by Bush as the greatest threat to American freedoms, I and others here view Islamo- fascism as the greatest threat to our freedoms.
My side, at least speaking for myself, is never going to give up the term libertarian to your side. I will never surrender it, especially considering that I've devoted 22 years of my life now to builing this libertarian movement. You will literally have to kill me first, to get me to surrender the term libertarian. So, what's the solution here? There's NO shame whatsoever, in you and others like you calling your philosophy Anarchist. Why do you resist this? It's truth in labeling. Why are you so against coming out four square and announcing to the world what you're philosophy is? We clearly cannot continue being in the same political movement. And as witnessed by my side crushing yours at the very latest Libertarian Party of California Convention, it's you that has to rethink your position and future. --- In [email protected], "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 1. There's nothing wrong with that. > > 2. Who cares? This is no different than the old man who ran over > people at the Farmer's market in L.A.. He was a nut. > > 3. Another nut whose murder had nothing to do with his religion. > Should I name the many Christians who have murdered people here in > America for each one that happens to be Muslim? > > 4. Borders did the right thing in not carrying something that might > upset thier customers. > > 5. It's really hard to gague his intentions after he's dead. He was > most likely a suicidal kid which happens a lot and you have absolutely > nothing to support your baseless claims that he intended to murder > people. > > 6. So what? There are those who preach violence against Muslims too, > just like you do. > > 7. Again, so what? None of this means anything. There are increased > numbers of rapes? What a Muslim conspiracy!!! > > 8. You've put together a list of 7 things that don't prove anything > and don't even come close to proving anything other than your own bigotry. > > > > --- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg" > <ericdondero@> wrote: > > > > Mark, granted the threat from Islamo-Fascism at the moment is much > > more severe in Western Europe, there are still many instances where > > it is raising its ugly head here in the US: > > > > 1. the City Council of Hamtramac, Michigan last year voted to allow > > a Muslim Mosque in the City Center to blare the Muslim Prayer "Allah > > Akubar" 5 times a day despite the passioned please opposing the > > proposal from the majority Catholic Polish citizens of the town. > > > > 2. Just 3 weeks ago a Muslim Youth shouting "Allah Akubar" ran over > > 8 college kids on the Village Green at the Univ. of North Carolina > > with his SUV. > > > > 3. 2 years ago a Black Muslim named John Muhamed in Maryland shot > > and killed 8 people with his rifle over the span of a two month > > period. > > > > 4. Borders Books, a major US Bookstore Chain just cowered to Islamic > > pressure and decided to ban the sale of the May/June issue of Free > > Inquiry, cause it contained Danish cartoons of the "Prophet > > Muhammed." > > > > 5. Last year a Muslim Univ. of Oklahoma student blew himself up on a > > park bench outside of a crowded football stadium. Though the > > authorities denied it, most believe his intentions were to set the > > bomb off inside the stadium killing thousands. > > > > 6. Louis Farakhan preaches his hateful rhetoric against Jews to > > thousands of followers on a daily basis. > > > > 7. Big City police departments throughout the US are starting to > > report a marked increase in cases of female genetalia mutulation, > > rape in some cases slavery of young Muslim women by Muslim men > > importing the women from the Middle East. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "mark robert" <colowe@> wrote: > > > > > > Geof, > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we may have an evolving distortion away from the original > > > topic. I thought we were talking about the threat of Islam > > > terrorism IN AMERICA, not other countries. I don't think > > > providing evidence of terrorism in other countries (even if your > > > information is all correct) does anything to establish your claim > > > that it is a greater threat in America than our own form of > > > religious (Christian) terrorism called the drug war. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ > > > {American jurors have complete Constitutional authority to vote > > > "not guilty" based on nothing more than a disagreement with the > > > case, no matter the evidence - despite the judge's instructions. > > > There is absolutely no obligation to vote "guilty" to arrive at a > > > unanimous verdict. Get on a jury, stand your ground, and fulfill > > > its other main purpose: to counteract abusive government and > > > unjust lawsuits. > > > See www.fija.org > > > [Please adopt this as your own signature.] } > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Paul" <ptireland@> wrote: > > > > > > > > But you cling to the utterly false belief that Muslims on the > > > other > > > > side of the world who want nothing other than to stop being > > > murdered > > > > and screwed with by the United States are more of a danger to > > > > Americans, than the drug war right here in America which has > > > cost more > > > > lives each year than all Muslim terrorist acts ever committed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have never refuted, as far as I have read, that the > > > Islamofascists > > > state they want to establish a worldwide caliphate and rule by > > > sharia. > > > Do you have some psychic ability to determine they don't mean > > > what > > > they say? > > > What about India? There have been more Hindus killed by > > > authoritarians using Islam as their pretext than there have been > > > other denominations and nationalities. You canstantly repeat > > > that Muslim extremism is all the fault of the US, but > > > Islamofascists hate and kill everyone of all faiths wherever they > > > have determined the infidel must die. How is this the fault of > > > the US? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
