No papers released by the Pentagon have any credibility, especially with regard to the non-existant connections between Al Queda and Saddam Hussein.
--- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Have you completely missed the news items from the last few weeks, > with the Pentagon releasing the papers showing the strong links > between Al Queda and Saddam? > > Perhaps you should read Yahoo News before you start posting daily on > Yahoo Groups. > > > > --- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit" > <uncoolrabbit@> wrote: > > > > I believe that if there is an orginized transnational group in > your > > backyard, you would have to be nuts not to develop a relationship > > and gain inteligence on them. The CIA had links to Al-Qaida, and > > supported its operations in Afghanistan against the soviets incase > > you hadn't forgot. Do you recal the video tape phootage released > > showing that Sadam had warned the US of the immenant threat possed > > by groups such as Al-Qaida? I think at a cabnet level meeting he > > said something to the effect of "they are going to get it, and it > > will not come from Iraq, I told them but they do not listen." > > > > From a realist view, there should be no goverment from Syria to > > Pakistan with out links to Al-Quada unless it is run by inept > fools. > > Things are very messy in reality, very intermixed for many > reasons. > > > > Now how do you respond, given that Sadam was maintaining contact > > with us and sharing inteligence on Al-Qaida, warning us of them, > and > > that with his ouster the power vacume has allowed the Al Qaida > > freindly Zarqawi network to make some operational headway with out > > the eagle of of the Bathist regime watching its every move in a > way > > the US never could, and with that space is now recruiting and > > training more extreemists than it ever has before, how are we > beter > > off? > > > > --- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg" > > <ericdondero@> wrote: > > > > > > Well, I'm glad to hear you supported the War in Afghanistan. I > > have > > > much more respect for your views and yourself personally now. > > That > > > one admission tells me that you're not a knee-jerk male-hating > > anti- > > > Military guy. > > > > > > But one question. > > > > > > How do you respond to the increasing evidence that's coming out > > that > > > Saddam DID meet with Al Queda officials, and that there were > > closer > > > ties between the two groups than ever before imagined? > > > > > > The Pentagon papers that are being slowly, like molasses, > released > > > to the public? > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit" > > > <uncoolrabbit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > No you must not Eric, as there is a very realitic opinion that > > war > > > > is in the intrest of the islamofacists, not the west. War > > disrupts > > > > stability and order, and its casualties become poster children > > for > > > > the call to jihad. Its also important to mention that I > > supported > > > > the Afghan war, but not the Iraq war. I believe in a case by > > case > > > > view of every thing, not a wide sweeping declaration of lets > go > > to > > > > war with the world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg" > > > > <ericdondero@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > You see uncool Rabbit, that's just it. I DO believe Pro-War > > and > > > > Pro- > > > > > Civil Liberties go hand in hand for a myriad of reasons. > > > > > > > > > > Mostly because Islamo-Fascism to me is the greatest threat > in > > > the > > > > > world, and most especially to the West, right now. If > you're > > > > > concerned about protecting civil liberties, you absolutely > > MUST > > > be > > > > > Pro-War. > > > > > > > > > > But for reasons beyond that. > > > > > > > > > > Who are the greatest non-Loser consumers of prostitution in > > the > > > > > United States? Answer - Military Guys! > > > > > > > > > > Ditto for pornography. Ever see a Religious Right nut > trying > > to > > > > > convince a bunch of Military guys that looking at > pornography > > > will > > > > > make them go to hell? I have, and it's a pitiful site. The > > > > > Military guys literally tear them a new asshole. > > > > > > > > > > What's the greatest argument we have in our arsenal for > > lowering > > > > the > > > > > drinking age laws? Answer - the fact that we have 18, 19 > and > > 20 > > > > > year olds fighting for our country, but we tell them they > > can't > > > > > drink a beer. > > > > > > > > > > What would happen to American youth, mainly male youth, if > we > > > > > drastically drew down the size of the Military? Answer - > They > > > > would > > > > > all become a bunch of woosies, being forced to attend > American > > > > > colleges where Feminazis will indoctrinate them with their > > anti- > > > > > masculinity doctrines. > > > > > > > > > > I could go on and on and on and on. But basically being Pro- > > > > > Military, and Pro-Male, is Pro-Civil Liberties. > > > > > > > > > > Being anti-military is contributing to the woosification of > > > > America, and > > > > > thereby destroying more of our civil liberties. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit" > > > > > <uncoolrabbit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Pro-war and pro civil liberties do not go hand and hand. > > > > > > > > > > > > I saw this on the BBC yesterday morning, it sums up the > > great > > > > > spread > > > > > > of liberty comming from our soldiers in Iraq. > > > > > > > > > > > > 15 Iraqi civilians were reported killed by a roadside bomb > > by > > > > the > > > > > US > > > > > > military, journalistic investigation discovered that one > US > > > > Marine > > > > > > was killed by that roadside blast, the 15 Iraqi civilians > > were > > > > > > gunned down in there home across the street from the > > > explosion. > > > > US > > > > > > Marines stormed the home, two Iraqi survivers, a 9 year > old > > > girl > > > > > and > > > > > > here younger brother. The boy refuses to speak, but the > girl > > > > told > > > > > > how she witnesed the Marines bust in the room, her father > > was > > > > > > praying on the floor, the marines yelled at him, then they > > > shot > > > > > him, > > > > > > then her mother, and threw a granade under her > grandfathers > > > bed. > > > > > > Video footage shows the bloddied floors, corpses and > bullet > > > > holes > > > > > in > > > > > > the wall of the two rooms were her entire extended family > > were > > > > > > slaughtered. Purhaps they were in a way killed by a > roadside > > > > bomb > > > > > as > > > > > > the US military reported, as the bomb did kill the one > > marine, > > > > > > leading to the bloodlust of his squadmates. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you want to claim this is about compasion, libertey, or > > any > > > > > > nonsense such as this. Tell me why Iraq and not Pakistan? > > > Iran? > > > > > the > > > > > > west bank? Darfur? Somalia? Think of all that money spent > on > > > > Iraq, > > > > > > and consider that 50% of africans do not have clean water, > > and > > > > > that > > > > > > a country like Uganda could get sufficient water from > little > > > > over > > > > > 25 > > > > > > million in well drilling. Explain to us how going to war > > with > > > > Iraq > > > > > > and occupying the state spread more liberty and did more > for > > > > > > humanity than drilling wells for fresh water in Uganda > Kenja > > > > > > Ethiopia and Rwanda? Also, keep in mind the droughts > > currently > > > > > > hitting the horn of africa right now. > > > > > > > > > > > > After that, explain to me how the US going to war with > Iraq > > is > > > > > > making Netherlanders safer, and furhter more why is it the > > US > > > > > armies > > > > > > responsibility to make netherlanders safer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! 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