Borders have purposes. They are for sovereignty, they are for division of power, and language, and culture, and sometimes religion. They keep tyrrany localized.
America was created to welcome all people from all nations to come here to live and work as one of us. America is unlike every other nation in that respect. When one goes to Italy, the language and culture are Italian. When one goes to China, the language and culture are Chinese. When one goes to Germany, the language and culture are German. An American can go to Italy, China, or Germany, but can't "become" Italian, Chinese, or German. But if an Italian, Chinese, or German person comes here, they are every bit as American as anyone born here. This is part of what makes us better than Italy, China, or Germany. We are a melting pot of languages, cultures, religions, customs, and beliefs. Other countries may have strict rules about who enters, and who can live or work there, but we should not. We aren't the same as them. They weren't built by immigrants. Immigrants didn't make them the most powerful nation on earth as they did America. We are to be a beacon of hope, friendship, and prosperity to all nations and to welcome their people with open arms. Their nations have oppressive governments and ours is supposed to be one that protects freedoms. Those Mexicans who are entering America without paperwork are not harming anyone. They are not draining our economy....in fact they are helping it. They are not an "invasion" force. They aren't coming here to take over or to do anything other than seek better opportunities to work and earn a living for themselves and thier loved ones. They are in absolutely no way different than the European ancestors who came here during the industrial revolution. The U.S. government is not given any authority over immigration by the U.S. Constitution. This means it's unlawful for the U.S. government to make or enforce immigration laws. This may not be the case for other countries who don't have the benefit of a Constitution to keep thier government in check. That is their problem, not ours. --- In [email protected], "David Macko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As I stated the first immigration act was passed in Washington's > first administration, when virtually all of the signers were still alive > and held the Constitution in recent memory, as you would of events > which happened in the last decade. I am unaware of any objection > to that act, even by anti-federalists such as Patrick Henry, George > Mason or anyone. If you or anyone else reading this response have > any evidence of any objection please be so kind as to share it with us. > > For life and liberty, > David Macko > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "terry12622000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:46 PM > Subject: [Libertarian] Re: Immigration > > > > The first part has nothing to do with immgration only naturalzation > > which is giving citizenship to a person not borned here, the last > > part has to do with Slaves( althought an argument can be made that > > the constitution did not reconize slavery), indentures servants, and > > possibly prison labor but it does not specify free immigrants, the > > cue is the last part with the tax imposed on the importation. You > > don't import free people. Migration and Importation means the same > > type of people that the states at the time of the ratification of the > > Constitution thought proper, they are imported from other countries > > and these same typeof people that can be imported Migrate by going > > from state to state not from another country, free people are not > > imported so it does not apply to free immigrants, if the founders > > really wanted the federal government to control immigration they > > should have specified immigration in the constitution so Congress > > comitted an unconstitutional act even back in the early years if it > > outlawed immigration of free non white people and free white > > women.Congress was the lawbreaker even then.--- In > > [email protected], "David Macko" <dmacko@> wrote: > >> > >> It is a federal constitutional issue. > >> Article 1 Section 8 Clause 4: > >> "Congress shall have power ... to establish an > >> uniform rule of naturalization..." > >> Article 1 Section 9 Clause 1 > >> "The migration or importation of such persons as any of the > >> States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not > >> be prohibited by the Congress prior to the year 1808 ..." > >> As early as Washington's first administration, Congress > >> otherwise limited immigration to free White males over 21. > >> Congress banned importation of Blacks on January 1, 1808. > >> > >> For life and liberty, > >> David Macko > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "terry12622000" <cottondrop@> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:04 PM > >> Subject: [Libertarian] Re: Immigration > >> > >> > >> > First off immigration is not a constitutional federal issue, > > Second > >> > it is a property rights issue. The bill in Georgia not allowing > >> > immigrants social services if they could not provide > > documentation > >> > would be libertarian almost, it would be libertarian if the state > >> > government returned the taxes payed by those people to them. The > >> > part of the law to punish employers is not libertarian.--- In > >> > [email protected], "David Macko" <dmacko@> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Since last week's demonstrations my last doubts that > >> >> there is no immigration problem have ended. This is an > >> >> invasion problem. I strongly object to having the Libertarian > >> >> Party commit suicide by following your suggestion. > >> >> Steve, ideals are important and we all need them but until the > >> >> damages caused by ninety years of "our" government's treasonous > >> > foreign > >> >> policy > >> >> and a welfare state which attracts parasites are corrected, > >> >> which might be done in sixty or seventy more years if we start > >> >> tomorrow morning. > >> >> In the meantime, here is a rational proposal from our first > >> >> presidential candidate, John Hospers, A Libertarian Argument > >> >> Against Open Borders: > >> >> http://www.mises.org/journals/jls/13_2/13_2_3.pdf > >> >> It has three positive arguments in its favor. > >> >> It does not involve the suicide of the Libertarian Party, > >> >> the United States or our liberty. > >> >> > >> >> For life and liberty, > >> >> David Macko > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> From: "steven linnabary" <linnabary51@> > >> >> To: <[email protected]> > >> >> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 7:20 PM > >> >> Subject: [Libertarian] Immigration > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >I am a bit disgusted with the LP's lack of involvement with the > >> > recent pro > >> >> > immigration demonstrations. I'm definitely not pointing > > fingers, > >> > because > >> >> > I > >> >> > am as to blame as anyone as I've done absolutely nothing. > >> >> > > >> >> > But immigration is an issue that COULD propel the LP because > >> > neither of > >> >> > the > >> >> > other parties favors open immigration. > >> >> > > >> >> > To my defense, and probably of others, I didn't even know they > >> > were > >> >> > happening until after they were over. That really isn't an > >> > excuse, > >> >> > because > >> >> > we should be LEADING on this issue. > >> >> > > >> >> > I guess I'm asking if anyone here is aware of when the next > >> > demonstration > >> >> > will take place? Does anyone know where to contact any > >> > leadership? > >> >> > > >> >> > PEACE > >> >> > Steven R. Linnabary, Treasurer > >> >> > Franklin County Libertarian Party > >> >> > (614) 891-8841 > >> >> > P.O.Box#115; Blacklick, OH 43004-0115 > >> >> > > >> >> > "When you make peaceful revolution impossible, you make > > violent > >> > revolution > >> >> > inevitable" John F. Kennedy > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
