opinions matter accept the superior WHITES. Your a perfect paralel
Paul. I am not here to discuss what your not willing to discuss.
Rather, what place the discussion should have and why.
--- In [email protected], "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yes, everyone has an opinion and none of the opinions matter but
the
> pregnant woman. Not yours, not mine, and not the American
people's.
> No position other than full support for the right of women to have
an
> abortion at any state of pregnancy from conception to birth is a
> libertarian one. No claims that a fetus has human rights have any
> more merit than claiming a tapeworm or a tumor has human rights.
>
>
>
> --- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit" <uncoolrabbit@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Opinions are worthless Paul, every one has atleast a few. You
gave
> > me your opinion, legislation written on opinion rather than
factual
> > logic is no diferent than the conservative right's imposition of
> > morale laws, or the lefts imposiiton of rob from the rich steal
from
> > the poor and is in every way shape and form the tool of a
statist.
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "Paul" <ptireland@> wrote:
> > >
> > > In the case of abortion, there is no aggression directed at a
> > child.
> > > There is no child to aggress against. A fetus is alive in the
same
> > > way a tumor is alive. Both have human dna cells. Both have
the
> > same
> > > amount of human life....NONE.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit"
<uncoolrabbit@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The other day I remembered why I was drawn to
Libertarianism. A
> > > > friend, who is republican, said that there needs to be a
dress
> > code
> > > > in schools. (He is a teacher). I asked why, he said the
other
> > day a
> > > > kid came in wearing a shirt that said 'buck fuddy'. I asked
him
> > > > what that means, and he went on a tiraid of cliches rather
than
> > > > explaining why he felt that there should be a dress code,
and
> > asked
> > > > me why I 'took the kids side.' I said I haven't taken a
side,
> > but
> > > > the default should always be that people have there own
personal
> > > > freedoms.
> > > >
> > > > There is alot of room in Libertarianism for logic, a person
can
> > do
> > > > anything that does not hurt anouther. I believe a real
> > philosophical
> > > > victory would come from adhering to a policy on defending
> > liberty
> > > > within the confines of not injuring others. There is alot to
be
> > said
> > > > on both sides here, so we must, to achieve a 'philosophical
> > triumph'
> > > > hold to our philosophical values, as you Terry said to me,
what
> > was
> > > > it, something to the effect of if you do not stand for
something
> > you
> > > > stand for nothing? Back to the point, a principle that many
> > here, I
> > > > think even Paul, have claimed to support is tracing
initiation
> > of
> > > > force to its source in determing who is the agressor, or
where
> > the
> > > > agression is comming from.
> > > >
> > > > In the case of Abortion, were is the agression comming from,
is
> > it
> > > > comming from the child? Not hardly, the child did not exhist
> > prior
> > > > to conception and had no conscious part in it. It was
actions
> > taken
> > > > by the parents that are responsible for its very being. This
is
> > an
> > > > important to mention, responsible, as the are responsible
for
> > this
> > > > life.
> > > >
> > > > The fetus, for Paul who enjoys the term, is alive, and
abortion
> > > > terminates that life, it kills the fetus, who is not
responsible
> > for
> > > > the condition of the mother. The agression is the act of the
> > > > responsible party, terminating the very exhistance of the
2nd
> > party
> > > > to avoid there own responsibilities and consequences of
there
> > > > actions. Nothing could be to me, more unlibertarian.
> > > >
> > > > I however, do understand that not every one thinks like me,
and
> > > > believe there should not be a federal law banning abortion.
> > > >
> > > > Also, I just want to say, if I haven't before, that I love
> > hearing
> > > > from you on the board Thomas.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], "Thomas L. Knapp"
> > > > <thomaslknapp@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Quoth Boyd:
> > > > >
> > > > > > It may be a philosophical victory
> > > > >
> > > > > It would be neither philosophical nor a victory.
> > > > >
> > > > > In order for it to be "philosophical," it would have to
> > incorporate
> > > > > reasoned argument rather than simply bluster and attempted
> > > > > authoritative personal ukase.
> > > > >
> > > > > In order for it to be a "victory," it would have to elicit
a
> > > > reaction
> > > > > from its audience to the effect that it _is_ reasoned
argument
> > > > rather
> > > > > than bluster and ukase.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom Knapp
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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