Vic, do these helmetless riders own* their bodies or are 
they 'responsible' to you?  

*exclusive right to determine use and disposition  


-Terry Liberty Parker 
see what I wrote in- 
Your Freedom & the Rights of Others 
> at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/22990


--- In [email protected], Vic Cinc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> hrearden_hr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Public support should not be at the expense of abandoning 
principle 
> > and an unwillingness to defend or stand for liberty. I think this 
> > gutting of the platform means that the party is continuing to 
slide 
> > down the wrong path. THe public should know what libertarianism 
is. 
> > I think otherwise the party may attract people who really don't 
> > accept libertarianism and the party will become like the 
Republican 
> > party. I think this is a sad day for the LP. At least Angela 
Keaton 
> > was elected to national committe and that is the only hope I can 
see 
> > for the party at this point. I am not ashamed or embarased to 
stand 
> > for liberty. I don't use subterfuge to convince people to support 
> > liberty. I will fly the Gadsden tomarrow.
> 
> there is liberty and there is liberty. its important to 
differentiate
> liberty from anarchy, which is what the LP platforms read like. 
liberty
> should not be at any price.
> 
> case in point, floridas accident death rate for motorcyclist has
> dramatically increased since the other bush repealed compulsory 
helmet
> laws. there is no compensating decrease in death rate to make up for
> this increase.
> 
> the public wants some responsiblity enforced by government.
> 
> the LP has very much stood for liberty at any price, liberty 
irespective
> of the real human cost, which imo has doomed it to irrelavence.
> 
> what the LP seems to be doing, which I fully support is reinventing 
itself
> as a party that actually gives a shit.
> 
> the LP must learn to balance freedom and liberty vs responsiblity. 
you
> cant have one without the other.
> 
> Vic
>







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