Vic, this is the problem with exporting ownership of self from each individual to the collective ownership of people that you're advocating: it does not acknowledge the personhood of each individual AND it breeds irresponsibility!
-Terry Liberty Parker see: Your Freedom & the Rights of Others at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/22990 --- In [email protected], Vic Cinc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Terry L Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Vic, do these helmetless riders own* their bodies or are > > they 'responsible' to you? > > > > *exclusive right to determine use and disposition > > this is the problem with the LP. the fact is cars are running over > motorcyclists and the one without helmets have a much higher rate of > death then ones with helmets. its easy to say its a personal > responsibility thing and you are responsible for the choice you make. > > but in real life things are not that clear, some people look to > government for guidance, if that guidance isnt comming then some people may make > bad choices, like not wearing helmets. its not just an issue of > ownership its an issue of responsiblity. if the government says we dont > give a shit if you wear a helmet or not, then thats sends a clear signal > that there is nothing wrong with not wearing helmets. clearly the stats say > if you get hit by a car you are much more likely to die then if you did > wear a helmet. clearly there is something wrong with not wearing a > helmet. its anarchy to say, the gov doesnt give a shit because you are > the owner of your body and its not our problem if you make a dumb > decision and die. thats not liberty. > > the public wants the government to give a shit, they want the government > to set acceptable behavior like wearing helmets. clearly there is a > price to not wearing helmets. by enforcing fines for not wearing helmets > the government is saying the same thing. > > lack of helmet and seat belt laws are a clear case of liberty at a heavy price. > > I dont beleive the vast majority want liberty at any price, and neither should the LP. > > the LP should distance itself from anything that smells, feels or looks > like anarchy. the planks must have a sense of responsibility about them. > > liberty and freedom must be balanced by responsiblity. > > the most significant and vote winning plank for the LP imo are taxation. > > nothing inhibits liberty more then having your income and capital stolen > to buy votes from others. > > Vic > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
