Vic, contrary to your prior implication, there is NO contradiction 
between each person owning themself individually and 
LEGITIMATE 'social responsibility'  

Libertarian UNIVERSAL principle: each person may do as they choose of 
their own free will EXCEPT initiate, or do a credible threat to 
initiate, physical force upon the person or justly held possessions 
of another.  

That's where universally consistent libertarians 'draw the line' on a 
person's exercise of freedom; and allegations of automatic 'social 
responsibility' beyond this are arbitrary usurpation.  

AlsoSee: Your Freedom & the Rights of Others  
at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/22990


-Terry Liberty Parker 
Please see what I wrote in-
Aggressors Promote LIMITED 'Libertarianism'
at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/49619 



--- In [email protected], Vic Cinc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Terry L Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Vic, this is the problem with exporting ownership of self from 
each 
> > individual to the collective ownership of people that you're 
> > advocating: it does not acknowledge the personhood of each 
individual 
> > AND it breeds irresponsibility!  
> 
> dont agree. you are placing self onwership as a value above
> societal responsiblity. all I am saying is the public generally does
> not. if the LP wants to acutally have any meaningful participation 
in
> the political system it needs to be representative of what people 
want.
> 
> and responsiblity need not include collective ownership. helmet 
laws do
> not enforce collective ownership, rather punitive means for stupid
> behavior. 
> 
> Vic
>







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