Current Wars: Israel / Palestine - Promises and Betrayals History Channel documentary on how British double-dealing during WWI ignited the conflict between Arab and Jew in the Middle East. "We must expel Arabs and take their places." -- David Ben Gurion, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985 "We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population." -- David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978 Much more and RealMedia Video internet playback at http://johnmccarthy90066.tripod.com/id315.html
NOW, on another note: "the Minaret of Freedom Institute is to educate Muslims on the importance of liberty and free markets to a good society, while educating non-Muslims about the beliefs and contributions of Islam and the political realities of conflict between the two cultures" MoreAt http://www.minaret.org/ Live&LetLive.1998.05.02: Libertarian national Muslim figure, Dean Ahmad of www.minaret.org publishes 'Islam and the Discovery of Freedom' on the 50th anniversary of the creation of the modern state of Israel; and takes live unscreened calls from viewers on this 1 hour TV show. RealMedia Playback http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub/wwwroot/webfiles/LL980502.rm FROM: AustinLibertyInterNet Radio/TV at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LibertyProspects/links (Due to popular demand, the system is often too busy to respond; so try back often. Right click playbacks to 'save target as...' to download selections to your computer for replay later at your convenience and as often as you want) Kingdom of Heaven (Download ONLY) Ridley Scott ("Gladiator") directed this sweeping epic about a blacksmith (Orlando Bloom) who joins the Crusades and tries to achieve peace between Muslims and Christians. Liam Neeson, David Thewlis, Jeremy Irons, Edward Norton, Eva Green. Cast & Credits: Orlando Bloom, Liam Neeson, David Thewlis, Jeremy Irons, Edward Norton (2005) http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub/wwwroot/webfiles/KingdomOfHeavenVH .wmv NOTE: if any of these LoRez internet playbacks stimulate your interest in getting a clearer copy, please 'Google' that selection to locate a legal source if one is not otherwise given already. PBS: Holy Warriors Parts 1&2: This look at the Third Crusade, which found Richard the Lionhearted striving to reclaim Christendom's holiest city, Jerusalem, from the Muslim leader Saladin, reveals the facts behind the lore, including how Saladin---often portrayed as a barbarian--- was an educated man from a culture more sophisticated than Richard's. Included: comments from author John Gillingham ("Richard I"); Dr. Youssef Choueiri (University of Exeter); and Suhail Zakkar, a professor at Damacus University. (2005) http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub/wwwroot/webfiles/HolyWarriors.wmv Crusades in the 'Holy Land' 3 hour recording picks up just after the first 'Christian' crusade takes Jerusalem by invading the heartland of Arab territory http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub/wwwroot/webfiles/Crusades.wmv HistoryChannel: a. Crusades in the 'Holy Land' part 1 of 2 is two hours of four http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub/wwwroot/webfiles/Crusades1.wmv HistoryChannel: b. Crusades in the 'Holy Land' part 2 of 2 is two hours of four http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub/wwwroot/webfiles/Crusades2.wmv Lawrence of Arabia (Download ONLY) The restored version (almost 4hrs) of David Lean's epic about T.E. Lawrence (Peter O'Toole), who led the Arab revolt against the Turks during WWI. Prince Feisal: Alec Guinness. Sherif Ali: Omar Sharif. Auda Abu Tayi: Anthony Quinn. Allenby: Jack Hawkins. Turkish Bey: Jose Ferrer. Brighton: Anthony Quayle. Dryden: Claude Rains. (1962) http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub/wwwroot/webfiles/LawrenceOfArabiaH .wmv Lawrence of Arabia: The Battle for the Arab World (Download ONLY) PBS 2hr documentary providing much insight to today's middle east turmoil. Biography of T.E. Lawrence (1888-1935), the dashing British officer who fought alongside Arabs in their quest for independence from the Ottoman Empire during World War I, and who was immortalized in David Lean's 1962 masterpiece, "Lawrence of Arabia." The real Lawrence (seen here in atmospheric re-creations and in Lowell Thomas newsreels) was emotionally troubled (one of the interviewees is a psychologist) and he had good reason to be: The Arabs he fought beside were being deceived by his British superiors. And one legacy of this duplicity is today's Middle East situation. (2003) http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub/wwwroot/webfiles/LawrenceArabia.wm v Making `Syriana' A look at "Syriana," a 2005 political thriller focusing on multiple levels of the global oil industry. The film stars George Clooney, Matt Damon and Jeffrey Wright, and was written and directed by Stephen Gaghan, who won a Best Screenplay Oscar for "Traffic." (2005) http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub/wwwroot/webfiles/MakingSyriana.wmv FROM: AustinLibertyInterNet Radio/TV at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LibertyProspects/links (Due to popular demand, the system is often too busy to respond; so try back often. Right click playbacks to 'save target as...' to download selections to your computer for replay later at your convenience and as often as you want) AlsoSeeFolder: 'Featured in AustinLibertyInterNet Radio/TV' Some more recent additions, upgrades or items otherwise of special interest; before they are re-distributed to other folders in this collection. NOTE: if any of these LoRez internet playbacks stimulate your interest in getting a clearer copy, please 'Google' that selection to locate a legal source if one is not otherwise given already. Look for me (especially Sunday eve) as: TxLiberty on Yahoo Messenger & MSN Messenger Terry Liberty Parker on Skype (supports multiple platforms like MAC & Linux along with Windows) and maybe AustinLiberty on AIM * 'PeerCasting' continuously now as 'AustinLibertyInterNet' via 'Yellow Pages' at www.PeerCast.org Distributed networking like www.PeerCast.org may enable people to create an alternative to govt licenced & controlled broadcasting. That can be useful when promoting things that challenge, or may be inconvenient to, established authority :) Please test this (at various times as needed) as an audience member (or even another 'caster) and let me know of your experience(s). ExploreAt http://www.peercast.org/ get a very small self installing program then select 'yellow pages' to find 'AustinLibertyInterNet' webcasting as an experiment by me in 'distributed networking' then please let me know of your experience -Terry Liberty Parker AND Find More Free On-demand Playbacks On-line via AustinLibertyInterNet Radio/TV at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LibertyProspects/links VoiceCall 1.512.462.1776 every Sunday 6:30pm (central) to ? I host informal discussion to which all are welcome who want to consider ideas & issues of Liberty & Justice for ALL in Hickory St Grill at 8th & Congress, Austin TX Look for me, MyPicAt http://profiles.yahoo.com/txliberty --- In [email protected], "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Harland, don't intersperse your comments within my post. It makes > things hard to follow for the readers. > > You falsely claim that the Palestinians (there are no such people) > built orchards and homes on land they owned for hundreds of years. > This is an outright lie. First there are no "Palestinian" people > anymore than there are "Rocky Mountain People". There has never been > a nation of "Palestine" during the entire recorded history of the > world. The squatters in that area who built orchards or homes, did > so on land they did not own. In fact they didn't own a single grain > of sand, let alone the houses they built on someone else's land. > > They didn't own land. They were evacuated from land they did not own > and were given some land for the first time in all of humanity in > 1949. But rather than be grateful that they finally actually own > land, they attacked the Jewish people who were moving in to the land > they legitimately and honestly owned. They cowardly murdered women > and children rather than face those they claim were their enemy. > > The Jewish people gave the squatters an adequate amount of time to > evacuate the land they NEVER owned before coming in and forcing those > who remained to either leave or be killed for refusing to leave. > > You further lie by claiming the land was privately owned by the > fictional "Palestinian" people which again is completely and totally > false. They didn't own the land. They didn't own a single square > inch of it. > > Squatters have no rights, and no ownership of land they squat on. It > doesn't matter if they squat for 1 day or 1000 years. > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Harland Harrison <harlandh5@> > wrote: > > > > > Since when do the people of that region follow English common law? > > > I don't even subscribe to it. > > They may not. But the message claimed that the UK won the land of the > > Palestinians from the Turks, in World War I, and then gave it to the > Jews. > > Surely the UK must follow their own laws. Under British law the > > Palestinians should have owned their own land; it would not have > belonged to > > the government. > > > > > > > > Whether or not someone would have a measure of ownership in common > > > law, or any other law is irrelevant. This isn't about what is legal > > > or illegal, it's about what is right and wrong. > > Exactly. The Palestinians built villages, farms, and orchards, on > the land > > they owned for hundreds of years. The Israeli army attacked them, > killing > > many civilians, and destroying their villages. Hundreds of > thousands fled > > in 1949, and have been living in refugee camps, raising their > children and > > grandchildren, ever since. There are over 400,000 Palestinian refugees > > still in Lebanon, today. The Israeli government will not let them > return > > home. This is clearly wrong. > > > > > > > > When you own land, it's yours and nobody else's forever. No person, > > > group of people, or government have any legitimate claim to it, > > > whether in easements, squatter rights, or anything else. > > Yes, and the land of people of Palestine belongs to them. Private > property > > cannot be "honestly acquired" by war. It rightfully belongs to the > private > > owner, no matter what governments may do. > > > > > > > > No person, group of people, or government has any legitimate authority > > > to tell you what you can or can't do on your own land assuming your > > > actions don't infringe on the equal rights of others or trespass > > > against them such as ground water pollution. > > I agree. Why should the Israeli government be any exception? > > > > Harland Harrison > > Libertarian Party of San Mateo County CA > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
