> SaidChuck: 
> There are 740 members on this list.  How many of them have donated
> money to libertarian campaigns?  How many have volunteered time?  If
> that number is more than 25, I'd be astounded.  

TerryResponds: 

Chuck, this IS a 'disscussion' forum in which there is participation 
by ANYONE who wants to express views PRO/CON about libertarianism.  

People do also make contact here that results in action.  

SOME of that is oriented to the Libertarian Party.  

*IF* you want help, from thoughtful people, for your 'perspectives' 
on promoting liberty & justice for all, it would be a good 'idea' to 
make your advocacy appealing to your audience   

*IF* you just want to carp (express) about people not marching in 
lockstep to some pre-determined ACTION plan, you're welcome to do 
that here too  :)


-Terry Liberty Parker 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian 


--- In [email protected], "Chuck Moulton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > We need both thinkers and doers. Principle without action, and
> > action without principle, are both dead ends.
> 
> Perhaps.  But I see a whole lot of talkers and very few doers. 
> Talking in circles without any action is a collosal waste of time. 
> We're topped off on principle... it's time to act.
> 
> Eric is a doer.  He travels around the country helping on campaigns
> and encourages others to get off their asses to volunteer and donate
> along with him.  I don't agree with Eric on some philosophical 
things
> (like the Iraq war, George W Bush, etc.), but I have a lot of 
respect
> for him and we agree on libertarian issues a lot more than we 
disagree.
> 
> There are 740 members on this list.  How many of them have donated
> money to libertarian campaigns?  How many have volunteered time?  If
> that number is more than 25, I'd be astounded.
> 
> My LNC colleague and friend Hardy solicited this list for help 
getting
> Libertarians elected to the state legislature in Vermont.  It's not 
a
> pipe dream... it's realistically achievable with only a few thousand
> dollars.  How many people donated?
> 
> http://www.vtlp.org/news/blog02.asp?ProdCode=351142992006
> 
> I asked this group to volunteer 10 minutes each to help me organize
> college groups all over the country through Facebook.  Want to know
> how many of you volunteered?  Zero.
> 
> http://www.facebooklibertarians.org/
> 
> LP headquarters has been soliciting volunteers for months to make
> phone calls to voters through the ballot base software.  How many of
> you helped?
> 
> http://www.ballotbase.org/
> 
> Talking accomplishes nothing without action.  I know all of you want
> to be the talkers hoping someone else will take the action.  Well, 
it
> doesn't work.  YOU need to take the action.
> 
> Every minute you spend debating philosophy here is a minute you're 
not
> spending helping Libertarians get elected and a minute you're not
> spending moving public policy in a libertarian direction.
> 
> Eric got the quote wrong.  What I actually said was:
> "I'd rather have 1 Eric Dondero out walking polls for libertarian
> candidates and petitioning for libertarian initiatives than 1,000 
Paul
> Irelands arguing about who is the purest libertarian."
> 
> And I stand by that statement.
> 
> Everyone has either time or money they can donate to the libertarian
> movement.  Some people have both.  I respect that not everyone can
> donate money, but it saddens me to see people argue because it 
clearly
> demonstrates they have time they could be donating but prefer to 
squander.
> 
> Please keep in mind the following libertarian mantra (10 words, 2
> letters each):
> If it is to be, it is up to me.
> 
> Chuck Moulton
> Vice-Chair, Libertarian National Committee
>







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