Paul come on. I know for a fact that Chuck was deeply involved in the recent overthrow campaign of numerous incumbent Pennsylvania State Legislators, Republican and Democrat, who voted themselves a midnight payraise.
--- In [email protected], "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've donated to my own campaign and to others and spent years as an > activist doing outreach booths. You're right though that the LP needs > people who do instead of just talk. What have you done besides talk > Chuck? > > I'd like to see the LP get someone at high levels that gives > candidates more than a handshake and a smile when they run. How about > at the very least giving them a list of the current members without > charging for it? That seems like the very very very least we should > be doing if not giving them free ads in our own newsletter, having > party sponsored candidate training, etc. > > What are you doing to build this kind of support structure? > > > > --- In [email protected], "Chuck Moulton" <chuck@> wrote: > > > > > We need both thinkers and doers. Principle without action, and > > > action without principle, are both dead ends. > > > > Perhaps. But I see a whole lot of talkers and very few doers. > > Talking in circles without any action is a collosal waste of time. > > We're topped off on principle... it's time to act. > > > > Eric is a doer. He travels around the country helping on campaigns > > and encourages others to get off their asses to volunteer and donate > > along with him. I don't agree with Eric on some philosophical things > > (like the Iraq war, George W Bush, etc.), but I have a lot of respect > > for him and we agree on libertarian issues a lot more than we disagree. > > > > There are 740 members on this list. How many of them have donated > > money to libertarian campaigns? How many have volunteered time? If > > that number is more than 25, I'd be astounded. > > > > My LNC colleague and friend Hardy solicited this list for help getting > > Libertarians elected to the state legislature in Vermont. It's not a > > pipe dream... it's realistically achievable with only a few thousand > > dollars. How many people donated? > > > > http://www.vtlp.org/news/blog02.asp?ProdCode=351142992006 > > > > I asked this group to volunteer 10 minutes each to help me organize > > college groups all over the country through Facebook. Want to know > > how many of you volunteered? Zero. > > > > http://www.facebooklibertarians.org/ > > > > LP headquarters has been soliciting volunteers for months to make > > phone calls to voters through the ballot base software. How many of > > you helped? > > > > http://www.ballotbase.org/ > > > > Talking accomplishes nothing without action. I know all of you want > > to be the talkers hoping someone else will take the action. Well, it > > doesn't work. YOU need to take the action. > > > > Every minute you spend debating philosophy here is a minute you're not > > spending helping Libertarians get elected and a minute you're not > > spending moving public policy in a libertarian direction. > > > > Eric got the quote wrong. What I actually said was: > > "I'd rather have 1 Eric Dondero out walking polls for libertarian > > candidates and petitioning for libertarian initiatives than 1,000 Paul > > Irelands arguing about who is the purest libertarian." > > > > And I stand by that statement. > > > > Everyone has either time or money they can donate to the libertarian > > movement. Some people have both. I respect that not everyone can > > donate money, but it saddens me to see people argue because it clearly > > demonstrates they have time they could be donating but prefer to > squander. > > > > Please keep in mind the following libertarian mantra (10 words, 2 > > letters each): > > If it is to be, it is up to me. > > > > Chuck Moulton > > Vice-Chair, Libertarian National Committee > > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
