In other words you have no value of freedom? Regardless of my opinion of that, thats something you'll have to work out for yourself.
When somebody kills somebody they take away that individuals inherent right to live and feel secure.....That is an example of not acknowledging rights although it is an extreme example. As an American according to the bill of rights you have the right to say what you want when you want to say it for example, If i were to not acknowledge that right then i wouldn't have to accept your right to say what you wanted to say. The police could actually arrest you for saying something they didn't want you to say if they didn't have to acknowledge your rights. As an American i do consider myself to be special. P.S if you do not value freedom above all else then you are not only not a libertarian but not an American and in fact you are a detriment to freedom and should be deported if you do live in America. Maybe we could deport you and import an illegal who actually does value freedom above all. Just a thought If you don't value anything then you don't believe in anything i don't believe that to be true. I believe you do have values and you do love freedom. Susan Hogarth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Chris: > > ... How can granting them the same rights as those who are loyal to this > country benefit us? ... Susan: > I am not loyal to this country. Do you want to take away my rights? > What do you mean about *granting* rights, anyway? They aren't yours to > give. Chris: > They are inherent rights that Americans as a whole consider to be those of > Americans. Susan: If they are inherent, it doesn't matter one bit what "Americans as a whole' consider. And I think the idea that Americans have different 'inherent' rights from other people is ludicrous. Chris: > Hopefully when you say that you aren't loyal to this country (if your an > American citizen) you mean you aren't loyal to the government. Susan: That, too. But I am *not loyal to this country*. Chris: > If your not loyal to the intent of the founders who tried their damnest to > make you and i both as free as we could possibly be and believed in it so > much they sacrificed their property and lives for future generations then i > gotta say you're not really a libertarian. Susan: I respect their work and their thinking insofar as it was correct and laudable. But they weren't gods; they were VERY fallible men. Chris: > A libertarian believes in freedom above all and a limited government which > is exactly what the founders tried to do. If this is not the case then i am > not a libertarian. Susan: Oh, I'm all for freedom and limited government. In this discussion though, at every turn you have proposed *more* government as far as I can tell. -- Susan Hogarth http://www.colliething.com --------------------------------- Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
