Whose land are you accusing Israel of taking?  No nation-state has any claim on 
that land.  It's disputed territory.

Israel took that disputed land for a security buffer AFTER being attacked from 
it.  When Egypt made peace, Israel returned the Sinai.  Israel has offered land 
to the Palestinians, if they could just stop murdering Jews and each other long 
enough to consider the offer.


From: Peter 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:32 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [Libertarian] Stop the War FOR Terror


Lets forget the argument about whether Israel has a right it its land assigned 
to it after WWII. Lets assume it does.

Lets forget the 1967 war - which WAS provoked by some of the Arab states. But 
even during the 1967, Israel AFTER it had won continued to push in a deliberate 
land grab. Read the histories and commentaries of the commanders of Israels own 
defense force and the government. Even when a cease fire was scheduled, the 
government orderd further attacks and pushes for land.

But as you say - even if we focus on what is happnening today - Israel is being 
a horrible neighber and constantly provoking fights. The recent Lebanon 
invasion was a complete travesty.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Bob Giramma 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Libertarian] Stop the War FOR Terror

Israel has an international legal claim to its territory and nationhood via the 
UN. Most of its Arab neighbors do not.

The Israelis respond to six decades of attacks against their free and 
democratic system by savages who have not yet civilized. I favor the free and 
advanced people over the primitive ones.

From: goat! 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 8:46 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [Libertarian] Stop the War FOR Terror

We can as well turn that around and say that the Muslims should give up
their claim too, and stop fighting the oppression of the "Jews"
for taking the area over to begin with.
Goat

Bob Giramma wrote:
> You're right. The Israelis should just stop fighting and let the Arab savages 
> slaughter them. 
> 
> Then there will be all that peace, freedom, and prosperity that primitive 
> peoples are so good at.
> 

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