Not according to the UN. The UN classified it as occupied territory. Further 
more, Israel has never formally annexxed the West Bank. Doesnt sound like a 
dispute to me.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bob Giramma 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [Libertarian] Stop the War FOR Terror


  Whose land are you accusing Israel of taking? No nation-state has any claim 
on that land. It's disputed territory.

  Israel took that disputed land for a security buffer AFTER being attacked 
from it. When Egypt made peace, Israel returned the Sinai. Israel has offered 
land to the Palestinians, if they could just stop murdering Jews and each other 
long enough to consider the offer.

  From: Peter 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:32 AM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [Libertarian] Stop the War FOR Terror

  Lets forget the argument about whether Israel has a right it its land 
assigned to it after WWII. Lets assume it does.

  Lets forget the 1967 war - which WAS provoked by some of the Arab states. But 
even during the 1967, Israel AFTER it had won continued to push in a deliberate 
land grab. Read the histories and commentaries of the commanders of Israels own 
defense force and the government. Even when a cease fire was scheduled, the 
government orderd further attacks and pushes for land.

  But as you say - even if we focus on what is happnening today - Israel is 
being a horrible neighber and constantly provoking fights. The recent Lebanon 
invasion was a complete travesty.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bob Giramma 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [Libertarian] Stop the War FOR Terror

  Israel has an international legal claim to its territory and nationhood via 
the UN. Most of its Arab neighbors do not.

  The Israelis respond to six decades of attacks against their free and 
democratic system by savages who have not yet civilized. I favor the free and 
advanced people over the primitive ones.

  From: goat! 
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 8:46 PM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [Libertarian] Stop the War FOR Terror

  We can as well turn that around and say that the Muslims should give up
  their claim too, and stop fighting the oppression of the "Jews"
  for taking the area over to begin with.
  Goat

  Bob Giramma wrote:
  > You're right. The Israelis should just stop fighting and let the Arab 
savages slaughter them. 
  > 
  > Then there will be all that peace, freedom, and prosperity that primitive 
peoples are so good at.
  > 

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