Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 19:03:30 +0000
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] MSIE 5.0 and up with W98 on L70?

>Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 15:07:06 +0800
>From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >But in testing download managers, Download Mage, GetRight and a few 
>others... I found that instead of downloading the MP3, I'd download a tiny 
>HTML file with the MP3 filename containing an error message saying that I 
>wasn't signed into the group.  Of course I was... but that's another 
>matter.
>
>Bear in mind that the download manager itself isn't logged in, only the 
>browser.

Indeed.  Actually, even if I'm using Netscape, the IE window pops upp to 
negatiate the connection.  This because of the way Microsoft integrates MSIE 
with the OS.  No matter what browser or D.M. I use... it's MSIE that manages 
the connection.


>Try setting the referrer URL in the download manager to the real page you 
>would have been on in your browser before you clicked on the link to see if 
>that works.

I've tried this by right clicking, copying the URL, and pasting it into the 
D.M..  It still downloads the HTML.  SOMETIMES is doesn't, and sometimes it 
does. I haven't figured out what's cauing this.

But the use of a D.M. seems useless at a site like Yahoo that doesn't 
support resuming file transfers when they get cut off.  By disabling the 
download managers and simply right clicking on the file link and choosing 
"Save target as", the MP3 files always START downloading, not the files with 
the HTML error message.

But another problem I'm having is that Yahoo seems to timeout the transfer 
after 6-10 minutes whether or not the file is finished downloading.... but 
that's another problem.


>Also try setting the download manager ID string to that of the browser 
>you're using.

Where would one find this info in either MSIE or the D.M.?  I don't even 
know what this may be.  I browsed through GetRight's options, but saw no 
reference to something like that.


>I find NetVampire and FlashGet tend to do a better job of 'fooling' the 
>servers than Getright (plus they seem a lot more stable).

Are these also free of software that phone home to report your download 
activities to some master database?  I got GoZilla a number of months back, 
and it took me a couple weeks to figure how to get tracking software off my 
system even after GoZilla was uninstalled.


>Sometimes you just can't trick the server (especially if it uses a CGI, 
>java or a cookie).

Well... I'm only one of a couple of people who have the problem of getting 
these little HTML files instead of the MP3.  I've been trying to get help 
from Yahoo, but I'll be going on my 3rd week at trying to get support from 
them, with receiving one of two messages from them that addressed the 
problem.  And whoever wrote that one hadn't read my post to them closely.


> >I had a few friends that a lot of problems with the versions of IE 5.x 
>they tried setting up, so I've been avoiding it.  But I'm wondering if 
>anyone on the list has a version installed and working with no problems on 
>their L50/L70 libs?
>
>I'm using IE5.5 on all my computers including my Libby running win95 and 
>I've not had any problems ...

Great!  If a couple more people can confirm that they've not had any probems 
with IE5 with their L50/L70s, I think I'll install it.  Any suggetions on 
what options to add/disable if prompted?

I wonder if people have found that the newer versions of Netscape work well 
on the L50/70s.  I'm still using the last stand alone version, v4.08, since 
I don't use the email or news software the other versions include.

Thanks for your input Raymond!

Matt

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