Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 05:03:50 +0000
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] 20 gig Fujitsu in an overclocked L50 and working!

>Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 09:33:30 +0800
>From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>At 12:08 PM 25/01/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> >Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:02:41 -0800 (PST)
> >From: David Chien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: [LIB] 20 gig Fujitsu in an overclocked L50 and working!
> >
> >Of course, it's all whole lot easier if one
> >1) reinstall everything from scratch.
> >2) Ghost everything to CD-R disc, then restore in DOS on Libretto from 
>CD-R.
>
>Slight problem, I STILL haven't figured out how to get my PCMCIA CD-ROM 
>drive working under DOS (although its probably because I've spent all of 3 
>seconds trying) ... Norton Ghost's parallel cable ghosting support does me 
>fine and doesn't require that I have 2 PCMCIA devices in the thing at once 
>:-)
>
>
> >For me, it was easiest to create a bootable 250MB fat16 partition on the 
>new HD with just fdisk and nothing else installed.
> >
> >Then, copy all tools (Partition Magic, Ghost, etc.) and Windows setup 
>files (Win98SE for me) to that partition.
>
>Umm ... why make it 250MB? Why not make it the full size that you'll want 
>for the first partition?


He's only using that first partition to keep a backup copy of the OS 
installation Raymond.  So you don't need a very big partition.

Also, it seems that Partition Magic wants to have hte partition you're going 
to copy BEFORE the free space you're going to copy it to... and then it 
seems to skip free space after that 1st partition to copy to, if you have a 
2nd patition with free space between it and the 1st.  The logic of where 
it'll put the copy was a bit frustrating at times, but not complicated.


> >Finally, using Parttiion Magic, dupe the only partition you have and make 
>it bootalbe, hiding the rest, then resize it to desired final size <8.4GB 
>to avoid the hibernation space.  Reboot and run the Windows setup.exe to 
>get that installed, and off you go.
>
>I have a bit of a phobia about Partition Magic but if it DOES let you 
>specify cylinders then I might as well use it to get the hibernation thing 
>going eh? I WAS going to use WinNT's disk manager to do that but looks like 
>it doesn't really wanna play ball.

I found out that with PM you can't directly set the beginning and ending 
cylinders that you want for the new partition.  At least not that I could 
see.  But if you have some idea of where that 1010-1040 area is (8.4GB), and 
center a 100-200MB partition around those two cylinders, you can find the 
value for the cylinders in the "Partition Info."

You can find info for a selected partition by going to PM's 'Operation' 
menu, selecting 'Info' from there, and then clicking the "Partition Info" 
tab of the pop-up window.  In there you'll see the beginning and ending 
cylinders of the partition you've set up to create. But do that after you 
set the size of the partition you're guessing is about right, and BEFORE you 
tell PM to go ahead and create it.

If the partition is at or outside of the 1010-1040 cylinders at each end, 
you can then go ahead and create it.  Then you can boot Windows, and run 
Wipefree (I ran "c:\>wipefr~1 e:" from DOS) to zero out the misc. leftover 
factory data (doesn't seem Wipefee writes over data you manually delete... 
phew!).

Then you can open up WinHex (which I found a really erratic/unstable, but 
powerful tool) and look at the partition.  You'll see the non-hibernation 
data area written with 01s, and hopefully the hibernation data somewhere in 
the middle.

You WILL see data at the beginning of the drive.  I think that's the 
partition table info.  I forget... seems there was data at the end too.  But 
if you scroll though the data, you'll find the hibernation area with 01s 
before and after it.  You can either guesstamate the number of MB to trim 
off the front and end of the partition if you decide you'd like to shrink it 
a bit.

I decided I wanted to find the exact sectors where the data started and 
ended.  To do that, I scrolled just inside the beginning of the data area. 
Then I noted the sector displayed at the cursor by looking at the sector 
readout on the lower left side of the window.  Then I did a sector search 
backwards from that point for the begining of the data area.  There's a 
couple of icons for search on toolbar.

If the sector value I searched with was too big, I'd end up before the data 
hibernation area.  I'd cut the value I subtracted from the previous sector 
in half, add that to my present sector value, and then search forward.  
Going back and forth, I eventually found the beginning of the data.  I then 
repeated the process to find the ending sector.

There may have been an easier way to do this, but I'm a novice at most 
things in life, is it wasn't already obvious :-)   And I never really 
figured out how to tell what cylinders the start and end sectors resided on, 
so if you can't do that... this last procedure is moot.  But David said that 
WinHex should tell you the cylinder value somewhere...  I never found it.

But but just by scrolling to the start and end of the data area, you can 
pretty well guess how much you can trim.  Then go back to PM, and trim away.

One suggestion though... Install PM on the HDD... booting each time you want 
to make changes via the DOS-mode FDD is like waiting for Gadot (time 
consuming!).

As I've mentioned, I ended up with a 39.2MB partition at cylinders 
1023-1027.  With PM, it's easy to create partitions on either side (mine 
were in the extendeded area), and then just grab and drag the ends of the 
new partitions right up against the hibernation partition.  You can either 
delete the hibernation partition, or leave it for future reference if you're 
like me and loose where I wrote the data about it.


> >naturally, once you've got Ghost images on CD-R, it's a boring >matter of 
>restoring from them anytime you want the HD back to >perfectly fresh 
>installonce again.
>
>Heh I'd rather have ghost images on a separate partition thank you very 
>much ...

Well... just watch how you use Ghost.  I'm sure you have you stories.  Once 
I was restoring a partition, and it didn't take for some reason.  I didn't 
know it, but I think the file had gotten corrupted.  I was antsy, and 
thought I'd used the wrong process.  Those Ghost menus get me dizzy (not a 
difficult feat), and I ended up Ghosting right over the wrong partition ... 
a partition I had a lot of semi-important data on.  Ended up doing a crash 
course on data recovery!

Matt


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