Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 10:23:24
From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] ct50/70 X config file


>Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 07:01:29 +0000
>From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [LIB] ct50/70 X config file
>
>>Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 08:57:37
>>From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>>>I'm still wondering if I can just load Mandrake files onto the L70's
>>>Windows partition of the 20GB HDD, and install from there.  No?
>>
>>Okay, for 7.1 there are four installation images,..
>
>4 image files, or 4 methods of installing images, or both?
>

4 image files (1.4MB) each of which expects to find the installation files 
in a different place.

>
>>..to expect the installation data on either CD, HD, another computer
>>(networked) and the last one is for 'pcmcia devices'. If you can't boot
>>from the CD, you make a boot disk with one of these and let it get on with
>>it.
>
>
>Going backwards (not sure if "'pcmcia devices'" and "neworked" are 
>referring
>to the same process):
>
>4 and/or 3: I have a Xircom combo card with networking I've just gotten
>running in Windows.  If there are drivers (and no doubt Card Service
>drivers) that can get networking running in DOS, I could install from a
>desktop from an MS-DOS partition of that will work.

Not sure I understand: I think that the network installation requires the 
mandrake driectory to be visible over a linux network - i.e. from an 
existing working installation on a desktop or server. But if you have dos 
network drivers, you could copy to a dos partition over the network and then 
install.
>
>2: I guess from what you wrote about a L70 crashing trying to install from
>its HDD, this is out... unless I decide to keep my old L50 a while longer
>and use it for Linux (Just hate to part with my first Libby love!)
>

Bingo!

o Somehow, get the entire mandrake CD onto the drive.
o Put the drive in the 50
o Rawrite the HD image and boot from it 'text' mode
o Complete the installation on the 50
o Pull the drive and stuff into the 70.

Sorted...


>>
>>When you put the disk back into the lib, kudzu and harddrake will run, and
>>you will be asked if you want to lose all the hardware it >can't
>>find...which of course you do. Bingo.
>
>So are you saying that kudzu and harddrake will dump all the hardware
>settings it found on the desktop, and then search the Lib for hardware, and
>make up a new list of settings?  Sounds great.

Works well, there's nothing on the lib it doesn't know about.

>
>But is there an advantage to this method over loading Mandrake right onto
>the Lib via a CD-ROM running from a (small if necessary) MS-DOS partition.

Well, it's an hour quicker to install on my desktop (after I've made all the 
selections) than on the lib :)


>Or agian, won't Mandrake install from a booted MS-DOS partition.

It will, see above.

>
>Hmmm... yeah... I remember in installing Slackware, I had to boot from the
>rawrite FDD to set it up and install the files from the Windows partition.
>So I'm guessing Mandrake won't install from a HDD booted into MS-DOS.

It will, but it needs to boot from a floppy that you make. If there was more 
memory, you could use loadlin, but if you run the batch files directly, I 
never found a way of getting the text option, and without that, you'll get a 
memory error. I have *no* idea why it should take 32M to copy files, even 
with pretty pictures.

>
>>If you have a copy of the installation disk on the fat32 partition, it's
>>easy to us kpackage or rpm to install anything that got missed, like the
>>pcmcia drivers.
>
>Okay... great.
>

It won't do the PCMCIA by default on a desktop, iirc it will if you install 
on the laptop because it finds the enabler chipset. But even if it does, 
Redhat, and by extension Mandrake, have a brain dead package which installs 
a config file consisting of 'pcmcia=off' which you need to change before it 
will run. Once it's up, it's wonderful.

>Re-thinking what I wrote above about loading from CD-ROM or a Network card
>(I'm not sure if your "'pcmcia devices'" was a 4th option, or what makes it
>different from using a network card)...   It seems if I tried to

I don't think that a network card is accessed in the same way if it's an ISA 
or PCI card, as it is if it's in a pcmcia. I'd guess 'pcmcia devices' is for 
CDROM - but you need the slot for the boot disk, unless...it may work if you 
have the expander and the second slot.

Neil

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