Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 07:01:29 +0000
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] ct50/70 X config file

>Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 08:57:37
>From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>>
>>I did a search and found a v7.1 Beta 3 Hydrogen copy... but it looks like 
>>an early Beta.  I presume I'd be looking for a standard v7.1. I wonder if 
>>a FTP search might locate a copy.  I'm sure you must have gone down all 
>>those roads trying to track down a copy.
>
>I've tried like mad to chase down a 7.1 installation ISO or anything - but 
>once 7.2 and then the 8 series hit distribution, the 7.1 stuff >vanished :(

I guess Mandrake is following the lead of other commercial and shareware 
manufacturers who scour the net and make sure all their older distributions 
are not still residing on any servers.

>>I'm still wondering if I can just load Mandrake files onto the L70's 
>>Windows partition of the 20GB HDD, and install from there.  No?
>
>Okay, for 7.1 there are four installation images,..

4 image files, or 4 methods of installing images, or both?


>..to expect the installation data on either CD, HD, another computer 
>(networked) and the last one is for 'pcmcia devices'. If you can't boot 
>from the CD, you make a boot disk with one of these and let it get on with 
>it.


Going backwards (not sure if "'pcmcia devices'" and "neworked" are referring 
to the same process):

4 and/or 3: I have a Xircom combo card with networking I've just gotten 
running in Windows.  If there are drivers (and no doubt Card Service 
drivers) that can get networking running in DOS, I could install from a 
desktop from an MS-DOS partition of that will work.

2: I guess from what you wrote about a L70 crashing trying to install from 
its HDD, this is out... unless I decide to keep my old L50 a while longer 
and use it for Linux (Just hate to part with my first Libby love!)

1: I've gotten my CD-ROM going many times in DOS easily by loading basic 
system files and the drive's drivers.  If I can load Mandrake from an MS-DOS 
partition from the CD-ROM, that's an option.  That's the only way I can see 
loading Mandrake from CD-ROM, as I can't get the L70 to boot off an 
installation CD.


>If you want to load from HD, you can do this on a 50 provided you select 
>text installation, though this doesn't let you use diskdrake to partition 
>the disk and so you can't (easily) get a journalling file system - which I 
>consider vital for any laptop.
>
>This doesn't work on a 70 - it crashes with a memory error.
>
>If you do it on a desktop, you can load either from the HD or boot from the 
>CD - easier - and it will pick up all the hardware on the desktop, 
>including the video card. What you do is to tell it the video card modes 
>failed, and then it will let you select from a list which includes the 
>CT65550 installed on the lib. Tell it you have that but *don't* test it, 
>and everything will be fine.
>
>When you put the disk back into the lib, kudzu and harddrake will run, and 
>you will be asked if you want to lose all the hardware it >can't 
>find...which of course you do. Bingo.

So are you saying that kudzu and harddrake will dump all the hardware 
settings it found on the desktop, and then search the Lib for hardware, and 
make up a new list of settings?  Sounds great.

But is there an advantage to this method over loading Mandrake right onto 
the Lib via a CD-ROM running from a (small if necessary) MS-DOS partition.  
Or agian, won't Mandrake install from a booted MS-DOS partition.

Hmmm... yeah... I remember in installing Slackware, I had to boot from the 
rawrite FDD to set it up and install the files from the Windows partition.   
So I'm guessing Mandrake won't install from a HDD booted into MS-DOS.

>If you have a copy of the installation disk on the fat32 partition, it's 
>easy to us kpackage or rpm to install anything that got missed, like the 
>pcmcia drivers.

Okay... great.

Re-thinking what I wrote above about loading from CD-ROM or a Network card 
(I'm not sure if your "'pcmcia devices'" was a 4th option, or what makes it 
different from using a network card)...   It seems if I tried to load 
Mandrake from a CD-ROM or from another PC via a network card, I'd have to 
have basic Linux system files, and Linux drivers set up for the NIC and 
CD-ROM on a bootable partition oon the Lib's HDD.

Matt


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