Guys, Thank you very much for all your answers. Having a community like that, I know is half way there for anyone. I am very very very eager to learn, that's my number one priorite right now and the e-commerce is an example to work with some real application and apply logic and a database to learn how put the classes together. It's not a hobbie I found another passion in my life besides my wife, my dog, my music and it's web programming. I like it all since css,ajax to actionscript to back side languages and the logic behind it.That's why I quit Civil Engineering and move to Computer Science years ago, but some stuff happens yada,yada.yada, here I am several years later trying to learn again. I feel better and more prepared than before and without distractions. I said a month but I have all the time in my hands right now so it could be until 2010 if necessary, full time. I wish I could work doing something like this sometime. Before I even learn scala, I have to get the logic how to create an app first in my head, like which items would an object and they will related to each other then to a database,it's not about create a simple program only,abstract,it's about how to put all little programns together to create something, in this case could be an e- commerce.Then I could learn the advanced concepts of Scala, functional programming and stuff like that. Maybe an e-commerce has a lot of logic involved is a good start to get my head around programming web apps with that example. I don't know if you guys understand what I meant,what I need to learn first, but even a book that explains that would be good, I read some books about design patterns and stuff but none of them applied in a real application. It's not even regular regular programming logic, I need to learn like how a put a app in a modular way, one thing on top of eachother, I don't know it that's the way to think about that, how classes will interact with eachother,Interfaces. Anyway, keep your advices coming and in case you know a book that explains that would be awesome. Thanks again.
wat On Jul 6, 6:01 am, Eric Bowman <[email protected]> wrote: > To this I would add: > > The way to learn to program, is to program. It takes a lot of time, and > a lot of hard work. Reading books is good, and necessary, but it's not > enough. > > Also, Lift really uses Scala to the max, so if you only have 30 days, I > would plan to spend the first half just becoming good at Scala. Which > will take longer than 15 days! > > Anyhow, being a "guru" is a life ambition. It takes time, time, time > and more time. All your time. A history of "unfinished" is going to > work against you -- this will take serious dedication and stick-to-it-ness. > > An insightful view from Google's Director of > Research:http://norvig.com/21-days.html > > > > > > Naftoli Gugenhem wrote: > > I would say that the main advantage knowledge of Java over a similar > > language gives you is knowledge of the Java environment and system, but you > > can pick that up via scala too. > > As far as turning theory into actual programming, my personal advice is to > > take one small sample, get it running, and then ask yourself questions like > > "Why does it do this?" and "What if I change this." Once you have a > > thorough understanding of how the sample accomplishes what it was supposed > > to accomplish, and how all the parts contribute to that, repeat with > > another one. Along the way ask yourself, "What if I want the computer to do > > xyz (similar to sample x)?" Also, play around in the interpreter trying > > different permutations. > > Of course, it goes without saying to read the books and articles, not to > > mention to ask all your questions on the scala-user list. > > Enjoy! > > > ------------------------------------- > > eric cs<[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > > I saw some posts on Scala website about helping newcomers and I was > > wondering if some of you would be kind enough to help me out to start > > with Scala/Lift. > > My main problem is I am not a programmer yet but I really really want > > to be, I've been studying Ruby/Rails, Php/Zend/Symfony,Mvc,Design > > Patterns,Uml,Sql and some Java. I read some books but I don't get my > > head to think like a programer. > > I really like OO,Design Patterns, Uml but I don't know how to apply > > that to a full application, how to link everything together, > > classes,objects(books about that?Not about those items but how to put > > everything together)...I know a lot of the theory and concepts but no > > practice. > > I have all july available to learn that 12 hours a day or more if > > necessary I just need a push, someone to teach/help me out. > > What's more, I saw a post saying that I could learn Scala from scratch > > without learning Java, it's possible, not so much with Groovy. If it's > > not what parts of Java do I need to know, in case some of you tell me > > learn Java first(the easy answer).Do I need a lot of experience in > > Java to jump in in Scala? I know it helps but I would like to finish > > my first e-commerce in august, 100% opensource in Scala if possible. > > > P.s:I did 2 years of Computer Science C++ and 2 years of Civil > > Engineering over 12 years ago both unfinished. > > -- > Eric Bowman > Boboco Ltd > [email protected]http://www.boboco.ie/ebowman/pubkey.pgp > +35318394189/+353872801532- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lift" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
