On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Jose Raul Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Why is it that there's the same problem everywhere ?
>  Life would be much easier and problems could be solved faster and better
>  with just some more DASD but it seems like the management guys must create
>  the dasd themselves...

I used to suggest that the platters come out of the factory nicely
polished, and they first need to rust before we can write bits on
them. That's why it takes time to get your disks...  ;-)

On the serious side: many large installations are used to "manage"
their z/OS DASD and know that it takes more than just adding a few
3390's. If it were for z/OS, you need to make sure you have backup
media for it, know what to do in disaster recovery, need enough time
to run backups, etc. That's different from going to the PC shop around
the block and buy a 500G SATA drive and worry about the rest later.
And for many large MVS shops, the amount z/VM DASD used to be small
enough that they could treat it like MVS DASD. But with Linux on z/VM,
folks start to consume much more DASD (for z/VM paging as well as
application data). It may be worth to convince folks there is a need
for "unmanaged" disk space (in z/OS terms at least) and have a new set
of rules (and internal rates) for it. For some, the trick to do this
is using FCP and get the GB from the other side of the wall.

Rob

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