Linux-Advocacy Digest #220, Volume #35 Thu, 14 Jun 01 04:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (was Re: Just when Linux starts
getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!) (Andreas Kabel)
Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and (GreyCloud)
Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (.)
Re: IBM Goes Gay (.)
Re: IBM Goes Gay (.)
Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...)
("Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)")
Re: Getting used to Linux ("Edward Rosten")
Re: OT: The point of all of this... (was Re: Where is American pride?) (GreyCloud)
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop (.)
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop (.)
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop (.)
Re: Getting used to Linux ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Getting used to Linux ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Getting used to Linux ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Redhat video problems. ("Edward Rosten")
Re: More micro$oft "customer service" ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Here's a switch for a change (GreyCloud)
Re: Microsft IE6 smart tags (GreyCloud)
Re: More micro$oft "customer service" (Sandman)
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From: Andreas Kabel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (was Re: Just when Linux starts
getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!)
Date: 14 Jun 2001 00:10:30 -0700
T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >In 1998, U.S. foreign aid amounted to $14.1 billion
> >
> >Largest foreign aid contributions in 1997:
> >
> >Japan
> >France
> >Germany
> >USA
>
> In absolute dollars? No way. Maybe in percentage of GNP. The USA's
> GNP is so large that it works against us.
No, that's absolute numbers. In terms of percentage of GNP, the U.S.
are on rank 21.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:09:44 -0700
"Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" wrote:
>
> > > Hey, don't destroy his fantasy that the universe revolves around
> > > America.
> >
> > Well now,... lets see what happens to the world economy if the stock
> > exchanges went belly up. Think your country is immune??
> >
>
> When the US economy was rapidly slowing down, New Zealand was expanding at
> 3.5-3.7%, fueled by the low dollar and increased dairy output. The US needs
> an export backed recovery, throw the dollar down to say, 50US Cents to one
> New Zealand Dollar, thus making it more competitive, imports cost more thus
> protect local industry ligitimately, and the trade deficit comes down.
>
> As for the stock exchange, the New Zealand has learnt from the 87 crash, but
> apparently, the US hasn't.
>
> Matthew Gardiner
That is why I haven't reinvested yet. There seems to be something wrong
in our stock market now. The stock brokers are getting as bad as used
car salesmen or worse these days.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: European arrogance and ignorance...
Date: 14 Jun 2001 07:10:25 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Said drsquare in alt.destroy.microsoft on Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:26:41
>>On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:11:45 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
>> (Rotten168 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>>
>>>drsquare wrote:
>>
>>>> >Compared to whom?
>>>>
>>>> Canada, Ireland, France, Germany, Spain, Holland, Denmark, Belgium,
>>>> Italy, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Iceland, Mexico, Poland...
>>>
>>>Ireland - abortion is illegal
>>
>>As it will soon be in US
> Now you're blaming the entire country for Bush and the Republican's pact
> with the American Council of Catholic Bishops. That's not fair.
> Abortion is still legal, and will remain legal, unless the Supreme Court
> ignores the Constitution.
Which it happens to do, occasionally. See the federal induction of the
controlled substance act.
Dont get your hopes up. Theres a difference between patriotism and
stupidity.
=====.
--
"George Dubya Bush---the best presidency money can buy"
---obviously some Godless commie heathen faggot bastard
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Subject: Re: IBM Goes Gay
Date: 14 Jun 2001 07:12:57 GMT
Edward Rosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>> Didn't you call someone a limey in a recent post? I suppose that's
>>>>> not as bad as being a homophobe, although I'm not sure why.
>>>>
>>>> I might have. I hate the english.
>>>>
>>>> -----.
>>
>>> Racism is comtemptible.
>>
>> Hating the english isnt racism, its nationalism.
> Hating someone based on a steroetype of their race is racism.
So "english" is a race now?
You fucking moron. I'll bet youre engilsh.
I dont hate *caucasians*, you ignorant swine. I hate people from
england, no matter what fucking color they are, bitch.
=====.
--
"George Dubya Bush---the best presidency money can buy"
---obviously some Godless commie heathen faggot bastard
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Subject: Re: IBM Goes Gay
Date: 14 Jun 2001 07:13:36 GMT
Richard Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hating the english isnt racism, its nationalism.
> Don't be stupid! Of course it's racism - what made you think that it isn't?
Ah, yet another .uk address that doesnt know the difference between nationality
and race.
How surprising.
=====.
--
"George Dubya Bush---the best presidency money can buy"
---obviously some Godless commie heathen faggot bastard
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From: "Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and
ignorance...)
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:13:07 +1200
GreyCloud wrote:
> "Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" wrote:
>
>>>>Hey, don't destroy his fantasy that the universe revolves around
>>>>America.
>>>>
>>>Well now,... lets see what happens to the world economy if the stock
>>>exchanges went belly up. Think your country is immune??
>>>
>>>
>>When the US economy was rapidly slowing down, New Zealand was expanding at
>>3.5-3.7%, fueled by the low dollar and increased dairy output. The US needs
>>an export backed recovery, throw the dollar down to say, 50US Cents to one
>>New Zealand Dollar, thus making it more competitive, imports cost more thus
>>protect local industry ligitimately, and the trade deficit comes down.
>>
>>As for the stock exchange, the New Zealand has learnt from the 87 crash, but
>>apparently, the US hasn't.
>>
>>Matthew Gardiner
>>
>
> That is why I haven't reinvested yet. There seems to be something wrong
> in our stock market now. The stock brokers are getting as bad as used
> car salesmen or worse these days.
>
If you are going to re-invest, go for reliable stocks like General
Electric, IBM, Kraft (the food topping people), Unilever and other high
quality stocks.
Matthew Gardiner
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Getting used to Linux
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:16:02 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Mart van de
Wege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <9g76m2$s75$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>>> It was very crude (fvwm sucks rocks compared to NeXT Step or
>>> Workbench),
>>
>> Ha! Shows how much *you* know.
>>
>> FVWM is the ONE TRUE WINDOW MAGAGER anything else is the spawn of
>> satan, pure and simple, much like vi nd emacs.
> ^^^^^^ ^^^^^
>>
>> -Ed
>>
>>
>>
> Uh Ed, old chap? What have they been putting in your beer lately?
>
um... the religous war is simple, much like the vi/emacs war.
VI and proud of it.
-Ed
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT: The point of all of this... (was Re: Where is American pride?)
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:16:33 -0700
"Stephen S. Edwards II" wrote:
>
> "Stephen Cornell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > "Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > If it wasn't for the U.S., Adolf and
> > > Hirohito would have wiped your country
> > > off the face of the Earth.
> >
> > Right. And, if the Brits hadn't sat tight on their own against the
> > Axis for two years, while the US stayed out of the conflict until the
> > Japanese attacked them, then Europe would have been overrun by the
> > Nazis. Do you have any idea of the pounding that Britain took, and
> > the bravery required to hold a much stronger enemy at bay?
>
> I have no idea, because I wasn't there. But you
> must understand, I'm not picking on anyone in
> particular. I'm talking about Europe in general.
>
> France, Italy, Germany, Austria, Poland... they
> all fell like dominoes, because none of them
> wanted to "deal" with it. Since the Brits were
> demolished, it was left up to us.
>
> And for the record, I would consider anyone who
> was actually in the fighting to be brave. The
> main people I'm picking on here are their
> respective governments.
>
> > > Why does everyone keep talking about how the
> > > Soviets defeated the Nazis? That's utter
> > > bullshit. The Soviets spent more time shooting
> > > their own people for cowardess and treason than
> > > they did killing Nazis.
> >
> > No-one is claiming that. What they're saying is that the Soviets
> > managed to occupy a significant fraction of the Axis's resources, and
> > this weakened the enemy.
>
> Not nearly enough to stop them. That is my point.
>
> I'm not trying to brag about something I had nothing
> to do with. What I'm pointing out is how the apathy
> of the European nations got them into deep caca.
>
> The same apathy that has been displayed here for the
> past few days.
>
> > > The fact is, if Europe hadn't dragged us into
> > > their little conflict, they would have been
> > > overrun. They were in quite poor shape once
> > > we got into the game. From that point, we
> > > called the shots, and kicked 3rd Reich ass.
> >
> > You accuse others of being ignorant and arrogant,
> > and yet you come out with this crap. You really
> > have no clue.
>
> Calm down.
>
> If you'd bother to try to understand what I was
> saying, you'd understand that I was merely stating
> that if Europe had dealt with the Nazis and the
> Japanese Empire the way that they should have, we
> wouldn't have gotten dragged into it at all. It
> was their mess... they should have dealt with it.
>
> 8<SNIPPED blatant miscomprehension>8
>
> > > But too many Euros have far too much ego
> > > to admit that someone else actually saved
> > > their asses.
> >
> > No, most `Euros' are very well aware of the major role played by the
> > US in rescuing us in WWII. What pisses us off is the revisionist
> > picture you paint that somehow you did it all yourselves.
>
> And exactly where did I state that? All I'm saying
> is that because you people didn't band together, you
> ended up letting your fellow nations get fucked.
>
> 8<snipped angry blithering>8
>
> > > Really? How long have you lived in the U.S. yourself?
> > >
> > > Tell me, how is it that you can know about every
> > > single person here, what they think, and how they
> > > feel... you must be Jesus Christ returned.
> >
> > Can't speak for Matthew, but I lived for a year in Canada, with
> > frequent trips to the US. The level of ignorance and
> > small-mindedness, even among the educated classes, was frankly
> > appalling. Even Britain does better in this respect.
> >
> > Finally: don't get me wrong - I don't hate Americans or the US. There
> > are many things about the US and about Americans that I admire. It's
> > just absurd when Americans accuse Europeans of being clueless about
> > the rest of the world.
>
> I wasn't accusing anyone of being clueless about anything.
>
> In fact, IIRC, you accused me of being clueless, simply
> because you misunderstood what I said.
>
> This whole thing was started, because some worthless
> flunkie by the name of drsquare stated that patriotism
> is worthless. If the European nations were patriotic
> at all, and banded together as one land of continents,
> they would have stopped the Nazis and the Japanese
> without any help from us easily.
>
> IOW, it was a lack of patriotism (ie: the love for one's
> country and its ideals) that put Europe in the shitter.
>
> How much clearer can I possibly make this point? Is
> everyone here fucking stupid or something or are you
> all so full of bitterness that all you can do is
> throw a temper tantrum?
>
> I never said I hated Euros, or that I don't value them.
> I just hate their apathy, and their seeming lack of
> patriotism for themselves and their sister continents.
Hehehe.... and they stated that pride in nationalism sucked.
--
V
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: 14 Jun 2001 07:18:31 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "." wrote:
>>
>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > "Laura M. Hagan" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >> > The right to swing your arms ends where my nose begins.
>> >> >
>> >> > The right to collect and trade deadly, communicable diseases ends
>> >> > where MY health begins.
>> >>
>> >> So, as I said before, Kulkis, you're in favor of women all becoming
>> >> lesbians? Since heterosexual sex transmits disease, after all, and
>> >> lesbian sex has the lowest disease transmission rate. Doesn't that
>> >> make sense?
>>
>> > Monogomous heterosexuals have no such problems.
>>
>> Neither do monogomous homosexuals. They do exist you know.
> Only lesbos.
> Male homosexuals are notorious for being incredibly promiscous....
I see. Michiganites are notorious for being white trash, inbred, backwoods
hick retards with guns.
If I cared enough for an object lesson, id stick a dick up your ass.
Consider yourself lucky.
>>
>> Also, most heterosexuals are *not* monogomous,
> Kinsey's research was flawed....in fact, deliberately so, and then, he
> cooked books, too. Even the Kinsey Institute for Sexual Research
> admits to this.
I am a polygamous heterosexual, and I have at least 20 friends who are also,
and over 200 aquaintances who are the same. All in the same city.
Actual real world experience once again completely nullifies your white trash,
inbred, backwoods, hick retardation.
With a gun.
=====.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: 14 Jun 2001 07:19:39 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>
>> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >"." wrote:
>> >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >> > Monogomous heterosexuals have no such problems.
>> >>
>> >> Neither do monogomous homosexuals. They do exist you know.
>> >
>> >Only lesbos.
>> >
>> >Male homosexuals are notorious for being incredibly promiscous....
>>
>> Kulkis got dumped by his boyfriend?
> I only go out with females, you ass-reamed moron.
Thats not what J.P. says.
=====.
--
"George Dubya Bush---the best presidency money can buy"
---obviously some Godless commie heathen faggot bastard
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: 14 Jun 2001 07:20:55 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "." wrote:
>>
>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > "." wrote:
>> >>
>> >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > "." wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> > "." wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > drsquare wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 14:29:33 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
>> >> >> >> >> ("Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Will I? How am I going to find this?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >US Centers for Disease Control has the epidemiology of Hepatits
>> >> >> >> >> >> >very well documented.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> But we apparently can't trust this government agency to report
>> >> >> >> >> >> transmission methods of AIDS properly.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >And the basis for your claim is.....what, exactly
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> This agency is probably full of conservative rightwing bigots. Like
>> >> >> >> >> you.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Translation: I, dr.square, have been reduced to ad hominem attacks.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Do you claim to *not* be a conservative right wing bigot?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Simple, I'm a libertarian.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Ah, so am I. I have a feeling, however, that I am a libertarian in the
>> >> >> truest sense of the word; id almost call myself a jeffersonian democrat.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Right wingers, just like left-wingers, are socialists.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Since libertarianism is fundamentally opposed to ALL forms of socialism,
>> >> >> > then, for as long as I am a libertarian, I can NOT be a right winger.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Ah, you are a MICHIGAN libertarian. Thats entirely different. Michigan
>> >> >> libertarians actually are right wing, conservative bigots.
>> >>
>> >> > Please document one socialist policy which I support.
>> >>
>> >> You are asking me to document your twisted, entirely incorrect definition of
>> >> right wing, conservative bigot.
>>
>> > Wrong. EVERY right wing regime has been....one based on fascist principles.
>>
>> > Fascism is a form of socialism, which is distinct from Communism (which is
>> > another form of socialism).
>>
>> Yet another thing that aaron knows exactly nothing about---historical
>> chronology.
> Your research is deficient.
>>
>> > Now, quit being an ignorant retard, and accusing free-market people of
>> > supporting socialism.
>>
>> I never said that, you complete moron. I didnt even *imply* it.
>>
> You said I'm right wing.
> Right wing ideology is a form of socialism
> QED, shit-head.
You need periods, its not a colloquial acronym, brainiac.
=====.
--
"George Dubya Bush---the best presidency money can buy"
---obviously some Godless commie heathen faggot bastard
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Getting used to Linux
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:20:44 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "The Ghost
In The Machine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Edward Rosten
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote
> on Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:02:00 +0100
> <9g76m2$s75$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> It was very crude (fvwm sucks rocks compared to NeXT Step or
>>> Workbench),
>>
>>Ha! Shows how much *you* know.
>>
>>FVWM is the ONE TRUE WINDOW MAGAGER anything else is the spawn of satan,
>>pure and simple, much like vi nd emacs.
>
> Oh brooooooooooooother. :-)
>
> While I happen to like fvwm, I wouldn't call everything else
> "the spawn of Satan". After all, Satan doesn't exist....
>
> :-)
>
I think RMS was possessed by Satan when he wrote emacs. Is there any
other explanation?
Besides, all those Gnomy things are plain horrible.
-Ed
PS Just for the record, no, I don't actually believe in Satan.
--
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Getting used to Linux
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:21:55 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Paolo
Ciambotti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <9g76m2$s75$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>> Ha! Shows how much *you* know.
>>
>> FVWM is the ONE TRUE WINDOW MAGAGER anything else is the spawn of
>> satan, pure and simple, much like vi nd emacs.
>
> Vi? Emacs? Real programmers use PICO! Everything else is just lame.
OMIGOD!
I'll have to introduce you to my brother.
He did an entire physics project (programs in C, sh and writeup in LaTeX
(10k words) ) in pico!
-Ed
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Getting used to Linux
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:23:16 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Terry Porter"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:04:07 -0700, Paolo Ciambotti
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In article <9g76m2$s75$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ha! Shows how much *you* know.
>>>
>>> FVWM is the ONE TRUE WINDOW MAGAGER anything else is the spawn of
>>> satan, pure and simple, much like vi nd emacs.
>>
>> Vi? Emacs? Real programmers use PICO! Everything else is just lame.
> No they don't ... *real GNU* programmers use Nano, as Pico !=GPl :)
>
> Btw Nano looks just like Pico, works just like Pico, but has
> enhancements:)
Yeah, but it _isn't_ pico. You clearly don't understand religous wars.
-Ed
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat video problems.
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:28:55 +0100
I think my main point (badly put) was that the entire network runs 64kb/s
channels (since the speech is sampled st 64 kb/s). It would have been
relatively easy to get more people sending data at 64 k/s and wound not
have required any really mayor changes to the main network, but they
bodjes it up, just like they're bodging up ASDL.
-Ed
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(You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.) (u98ejr)(@)(ecs.ox)(.ac.uk)
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More micro$oft "customer service"
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:30:43 +0100
In article <9g8fp2$2mtk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Stuart Fox"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9g673u$688$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> What I would actually like to see is PDF replace all proprietary
>> document formats, so there is one, universal document format that will
>> work on
> every
>> platform, every office suite, no matter who makes it.
>>
>
> PDF **is** a proprietary format. It's owned by Adobe. It's no less
> proprietary than DOC or XLS.
It si completely open , though.
-Ed
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Here's a switch for a change
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:36:24 -0700
Ayende Rahien wrote:
>
> "GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Greg Cox wrote:
> > >
> > > In article
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> > > > This is off topic for this thread.... I went to ms website for the
> VC6.0
> > > > downloads...
> > > > I can't do it because its HUGE... 175Mb of downloads??? Over a 28.8K
> > > > modem line??
> > > >
> > > > Looks like I go to Metrowerks to get a compiler that works right.
> > > >
> > > Then go to http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/sp/vs6sp5/ordering.asp and
> > > order the service pack on CD for a service charge of a whole $5.
> > > --
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Thank you. That helps. Funny they must have an awful lot of screwups
> > to download 175Mb tho.
>
> Their service packs are accomalutive. (Meaning that SP5 include all other SP
> as well)
>
> Did you try DX8? 130MB. And .NET SDK is about this size as well.
No. It had become a moot point anyway... MS says I don't qualify.
I'll go to Metrowerks compiler. They make compilers for a lot of
different platforms.
--
V
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsft IE6 smart tags
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:43:14 -0700
Edward Rosten wrote:
>
> >> It is in some ways. Print is much easier to read than a computer screen
> >> due having a much higher resoulution and contrast. Also, the print
> >> quailty from an expensive book is liable to be much higher than the
> >> print quality you could get out of any printer you are likely to be
> >> able to afford / have room for.
> >>
> >
> > How right you are! I used up four black print cartridges to print out
> > the Solaris 8 System Administration Manuals. My cost was about $150.
> > Each was about 700 pages and there were three manuals. Plus I had to
> > buy the large D ring notebooks to make the pages last. I think I'd
> > rather have paid the money for the manuals.
>
> OUCH!
>
> For that kind of bulk printing its worth getting a heavy duty printer
> like an HP4050.
>
> Just one quesition...
>
> How long did it take yoy to punch the holes for 2100 pages?
>
> -Ed
>
It took me three months of my spare time. :-)
Sun provided the docs downloadable in pdf format.
If I had used windows I'd have had to use three times as many
cartridges.
The ghostscript program for the Epson was a miser on the ink, which I'm
grateful for.
But at least I find it easier to find something than putting in search
words.
Sometimes you don't get what you are looking for. But searching thru
paper I find that my memory gets jiggled when the correct topic comes
up.
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From: Sandman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More micro$oft "customer service"
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:44:26 +0200
In article <cxPV6.80127$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Daniel Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > No it's not. A PDF site is a site where all the actual documents are
> > PDF.
>
> *All* of them?
>
> Does that mean that an HTML site is one where
> all the actual documents are HTML?
What he want's you to do, badly communicated, is to show him a site where
they use PDF -instead- of html, not as a document format downloaded -from-
a html site. In other words: http://www.thesite.com/index.pdf or the likes.
Bad discussion anyway, it started about how Smart tags ruined the
developers intention with the look of the page, and I believe you replied
that if you want such control, use PDF, and somebody answered that PDF
can't be used for the web (meaning -instead- of html) and you disagreed and
it led to misunderstanding and just pure advocate-mumbo-jumbo, the natural
course of this ng of course. :)
No, PDF can't be used instead of HTML.
Yes, PDF offer better control of the content.
--
Sandman[.net]
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