On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Peter Kruse <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> Andrew Beekhof wrote:
>> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Peter Kruse <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> You are saying that it is okay that a single failure can bring the cluster
>>> in a unsolvable situation?  I thought "SPoF" would be the bad word.
>>> Because that's what it is.
>>
>> Its a very bad word, but the SPoF is very clearly the hardware here.
>>
>> I understand that there are many reasons to want these integrated
>> power switches to work in a clustered environment, but they don't.
>> We all know they don't, but we come up with complex algorithms so that
>> we can pretend that they do.
>
> great, I thought they were the recommended stonith devices?  Are they not?

Any switch that shares power with the host(s) it controls clearly has a SPoF.
You don't need me to tell you that.

The scenario they don't work in might be acceptably unlikely for most
people, but the risk is there.
However, as I keep saying, I've no objection an option that implements
the failsafe algorithm (and documents the reason it exists)

> Obviously not, so please do not mention them in the documentation
> (coming back to the topic ...).  Or if you put it in the documentation
> then also say that it's not recommended because they do not work.

Which particular documentation are you referring to?
I've not personally written any on stonith.
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