On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Peter Kruse <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> Andrew Beekhof wrote:
>> Any switch that shares power with the host(s) it controls clearly has a SPoF.
>> You don't need me to tell you that.
>
> But that does not have to be a SPoF for the entire system!

By default, yes it does.
Because the cluster cannot guarantee, with 0.0000000% doubt, that the
node is totally dead.

STONITH is supposed to provide that guarantee, but this type of SPoF
makes this impossible.

If the admin can tolerate an X% chance of data corruption, then
they're free to enable the (future) option.
And if they really don't care about their data they can use ssh instead :-)

> The problem here
> is that a single failure (power loss) causes not only one node to
> go down (and the pdu itself, yes), but the whole system stops working
> properly.  Now you now have to say that one has to equip the pdus with
> redundant power supplies.  Unfortunately I know of no such device.  Which
> brings me to the conclusion that nobody has yet developed a device that works
> as a fully supported and recommended stonith device.  Which is kind of a
> dilemma.
>
>> The scenario they don't work in might be acceptably unlikely for most
>> people, but the risk is there.
>> However, as I keep saying, I've no objection an option that implements
>> the failsafe algorithm (and documents the reason it exists)
>
> I would certainly vote for this.

Got a patch handy?
I'll apply it :-)
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