Linux-Hardware Digest #586, Volume #9             Sat, 6 Mar 99 21:13:34 EST

Contents:
  Yamaha XG PCI 64-bit sound (mvrao)
  AWE64 sound problems | more (Mark Covington)
  Re: How can I use my UMAX S6E scanner (SCSI) under linux (Red Hat 5.2)? ("James 
Wanless")
  Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info (Anthony D. Tribelli)
  Re: DIAMOND VIPER550 XSERVER (eric whitten)
  Re: Xircom RealPort Card problem ("Bruce Cowan")
  Acer 320VX Network Card (Colin)
  Problems with SB PCI64 (Mikael Gunnarsson)
  Re: Power Down with Linux? (jagged)
  Re: X & velocity 4400 Riva TNT AGP 16Mb (John McKee)
  Install Linux over 2 small HDs to span filesystem ? (Michael McCarthy)
  Re: Any experience with linux on G3? (2findit)
  Re: STB Velocity 4400 / Red Hat 5.1 (Reid Rivenburgh)
  Re: Hardware MPEG decoders supported by LINUX ? ("matthew.r.pavlovich.1")
  Re: CD RW - Awful simple question ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: I want to build a junk machine ("Tuomo O. Vuolteenaho")
  Re: Question: Asus P2-DS SCSI ("Michael W. Ryder")
  Re: A more complete and well-formed question. (Chris Mahmood)
  Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: Linux killed the drive? Coincidence? ("Duane Elmer Smeckert")
  I can't find support for the Turtle Beach Montege A3d sound card ("Sarah V. Wolfe")
  Can't use my mouse in X ("Ishai Parasol")
  CPU Question ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Can someone help? (Chris Mahmood)
  Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: Maxtor 8.4 Gig Drive. (garv)
  Re: cpu has "F0 0F" bug?

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From: mvrao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Yamaha XG PCI 64-bit sound
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 17:01:57 +0000

Is the one made by Digital Reasearch, called DRSOUNDPCI work on RH 5.2 (
or 2.2.2 kernel) ?

If so, what should I configure it as ?

Soundblaster pro ?
or OPL2 ?
or OPL3-SAx ?

TIA,
MVR



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From: Mark Covington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: rice.comp.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: AWE64 sound problems | more
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 10:02:30 -0600

Thank you all for your previous help, my system is almost to the level
of functional sound,
I just need a little more help at it.  I am trying to setup a
SoundBlaster AWE64 ISA.
During the bootup sequence isapnp is run first and everything appears to
be enabled OK,
later on when the module is tried to be loaded as a part of the bootup
sequence an error occurs.
It says that there is an IRQ/DRQ conflict at IRQ 5.  Then it follows
with some sort of message
about unresolved symbols.  I cannot figure out what it is because they
are not reported in
dmesg.  Later when I go to look at /proc/interrupts it lists interrupt 5
as already being allocated
to the soundblaster.

Here is the listsing from cat /dev/sndstat

Load type: Driver loaded as a module
Kernel: Linux markcov.lovett.rice.edu 2.2.1 #8 SMP Wed Feb 10 22:39:32
CST 1999 i586
Config options: 0

Installed drivers:

Card config:

Audio devices:
0: Sound Blaster 16 (4.16) (DUPLEX)

Synth devices:
0: AWE32-0.4.3 (RAM512k)

Midi devices:
0: Sound Blaster 16
1: AWE Midi Emu

Timers:
0: System clock

Mixers:
0: Sound Blaster

As you can see there is no config options loaded, just the devices
themselves.     Likewise whenever
I try to unload & load the module it returns an error that there is an
IRQ/DRQ error, but none
of the unresolved symbols as mentioned before during the bootup.  Just
for completeness here is the
appropriate section of dmesg, and then conf.modules.

Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
SB 4.16 detected OK (220)
sb: Interrupt test on IRQ5 failed - Probable IRQ conflict
<SoundBlaster EMU8000 (RAM512k)>


alias sound sb
alias midi awe_wave
post-install awe_wave /usr/bin/sfxload /usr/synthfm.sbk
options sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330

and the section that is reported in the /var/log/messages

Mar  6 09:57:40 markcov kernel: Sound: DMA (output) timed out - IRQ/DRQ
config error?

[cat /proc/modules]

awe_wave              155676   0
sb                     31260   0
uart401                 5700   0 [sb]
sound                  56616   0 [awe_wave sb uart401]
soundlow                 252   0 [sound]
soundcore               2396   7 [sb sound]


Whenever a sound is played it comes out in quarter second bursts of
sound that
do not sound like the original file at all.

Any help as to how to prevent it from double-allocating the interrupt?
Or whatever else is
necessary to solve the problem?

Mark Covington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: "James Wanless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How can I use my UMAX S6E scanner (SCSI) under linux (Red Hat 5.2)?
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 17:08:51 -0000

Thanks for your (speedy) answer, matthew -  Im sure I should know, but
what's 'SANE'?

>



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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony D. Tribelli)
Subject: Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 05:16:09 GMT

Johan Kullstam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony D. Tribelli) writes:

: > Restarting BIOS would change various BIOS variables so saving some of
: > these would make sense. I know the reset technique has been used quite a
: > bit, I'm only questioning the notion that there is an undocumented reset
: > instruction in the x86. The various methods of resetting the CPU I'm aware
: > of involve I/O instruction or descriptor table instructions. 
:
: there's always the old tried and true method of physically grounding
: the reset pin.  a little bit of logic between an output port and the
: reset and you could do it from software.

If we're going to resort to hardware then just add a switch. :-)

Tony
-- 
==================
Tony Tribelli
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: eric whitten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DIAMOND VIPER550 XSERVER
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 18:59:07 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bob wrote:
> 
> I am having trouble setting up my DIAMOND VIPER 550 on my RED HAT
> LINUX 5.2 System.  The XSERVER that was suggested for use with my card
> is the SVGA version 3.3.2.3 - 25.
> 
> Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get this to work?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Bob

You should upgrade to 3.3.3.1-1.  I recently set up that same card on
this version with no problems at all.  Ignore that early suggestion.
                                                
                                        Your welcome,
                                        
                                                        eric

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From: "Bruce Cowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Xircom RealPort Card problem
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 04:34:18 GMT

What matters is whether you have the CardBus version of the card or the
old pcmcia 16-bit version. The CardBus version isn't supported yet, but the
other one does work. I'm not certain of the model numbers, but I think the
CardBus version is a RBEM... and the other is an REM...  Even on the REM
version, there are problems with 10M Ethernet which seem to vary from
card to card.

There are people working on the driver for the CardBus version. I'm on the
wrong computer right now or I'd point you at the web site where this is
discussed - but that wouldn't do you much good since there is no driver yet.

Bruce Cowan

Rene Kuijf wrote:

>Hy Bapu,
>
>I'm using the same card in a Toshiba tecra 8000. I just went plug and
>play....
>I'm using Redhat 5.2 too.
>
>Rene Kuijf



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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 19:23:35 -0500
From: Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Acer 320VX Network Card

Does anyone know if Linux is compatible with the Acer 320VX network card? 
Which driver would I use?
-- 
Reply to "cwv [at] idirect (dot) com"

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From: Mikael Gunnarsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problems with SB PCI64
Date: 5 Mar 1999 23:31:33 GMT

I have a problem using my SB PCI64 under linux (Slackware 3.6, kernel
2.2.1).. I have compiled the es1370 into the kernel, and at bootup it
detects it fine:

Mar  5 18:53:37 boll kernel: es1370: version v0.17 time 21:10:24 Mar  4
1999
Mar  5 18:53:37 boll kernel: es1370: found adapter at io 0xdcc0 irq 9
Mar  5 18:53:37 boll kernel: es1370: features: joystick off, line in, mic
impedance 0

But then when I try to use it,  it simply doesn't work. Most programs that
try to use it hangs. I'm thinking it might be a conflict with my network
card, since /proc/pci says this:

Bus  0, device   9, function  0:
    Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq AudioPCI (rev 1).
      Slow devsel.  IRQ 9.  Master Capable.  Latency=96.  Min Gnt=12.Max
Lat=128.
      I/O at 0xdcc0 [0xdcc1].

...and a few lines further down...

  Bus  0, device  11, function  0:
    Ethernet controller: Realtek 8029 (rev 0).
      Medium devsel.  IRQ 9.
      I/O at 0xdc60 [0xdc61].

They seem to use the same IRQ, and their I/O ports are quite close too..
Could this be what causes the problem, and if so, how do I change the
settings for them in linux? (They're both PnP cards)

Any help would be appreciated.


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From: jagged <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Power Down with Linux?
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 00:31:06 +0200

"Keith A. Folske" wrote:
> 
> How do I get linux to power down my pc like windows98 does?  I have an ATX
> capable power supply.  When I choose shutdown in windows, it turns power
> off.
> I have been using "shutdown -h now" in linux, but that only halts the system
> and does not remove power.  Anyone know how to accomplish this?
> 
> Thanks,
> Keith
> 
> --
> Keith A. Folske
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You need to recompile the kernel with apm support (there there is an
option about power down). That worked for me. Then depending on the
version of the kernel you  have, you may have to modify the halt script
(which can be found in /etc/rc.d/init.d/) and change a line which says
command="halt" to command="halt -p"
(I had to do that only when i upgraded to kernel 2.2.2, on my old 2.036
kernel power down worked fine without that modification)
-- 
jagged

"I either want less corruption, or more chance to participate in it."

icq : 3163150
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Lot/6301

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John McKee)
Subject: Re: X & velocity 4400 Riva TNT AGP 16Mb
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 20:33:10 GMT

Try MetroLink at www.metrolink.com

It worked for me.

On Wed, 03 Mar 1999 18:38:08 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Has anyone succesfully configured this card to run X.
>When I select the the Velocity Riva in Xconfigerator it
>gives me an error that it can't tell how much
>video memory I have. Then it gives me a selection of only up
>to 8 megs to choose from manualy. I am also using a Pansync S70
>monitor.
>
>
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John McKee
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael McCarthy)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Install Linux over 2 small HDs to span filesystem ?
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 10:14:34 GMT

Hi,
I have two 200MB ide hard drives and would like to install redhat 5.2
or another distributions of linux using the two seperate drives as one

filesystem. ie a basic redhat5.2 install with networking etc is over
200 MB.

When the first HD is full the install produces errors (no space left
on device etc :-) .

Is it possible to set it up so the install will continue to the second
HD and have linux see both disks as one, or do I need to 
do an absolute minimum install to drive C then install the 
remaining programs to D drive.

Suggestions please.

regards,
Michael




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From: 2findit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: Any experience with linux on G3?
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 17:59:20 -0600

Greetings John..

Take a look at the following down at UT Austin..

http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/

Not aware if you already aware of this or not however,
notice under the L-o-n-g listing that Mac's are listed..

This *may* at least point you in the general direction 
your wanting to go.. Through some of the folks listed, 
you can probably get the information your seeking..

Cheers,
Gary


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I'd like to hear from any of you that have installed linux on any of the G3
> machines. In particular, how well does all of the hardware work with it? Have
> you been able to network it with external hard disks or other machines easily?
> 
> Thanks
> John
> 
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From: Reid Rivenburgh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: STB Velocity 4400 / Red Hat 5.1
Date: 06 Mar 1999 17:35:09 -0700

 >> Mats Danielsson writes:

 > I'm trying to configure my Velocity 4400 (8Mb RAM) for Red Hat 5.1,
 > but no success so far. I was recommended by STB to download drivers
 > from www.d128.com, but I can't get the drivers to work. When I
 > choose 'Unlisted Card' and then 'SVGA' in Xconfigurator (after
 > replacing the XF86_SVGA with the downloaded version), the software
 > can't determine the amount of RAM etc. Nor can I run X. I'm new in
 > the world of Linux, so I'd really appreciate if anyone with the
 > same card could give me some hints about how to install it. I am
 > getting sick of the VGA16 mode...

I think the www.d128.com server is old.  Try downloading and
installing the latest version of XFree86, 3.3.3.1, which has been
updated to work with your card.  You can find info about it
<http://www.xfree86.org/>.  I don't have that card, but it should
work....

Reid

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From: "matthew.r.pavlovich.1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hardware MPEG decoders supported by LINUX ?
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 17:15:20 -0500


linuxdvd.dhs.org

Also check out the V4L2 site.

-Matt

On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Eric Dizdarevic wrote:

> Urgent !
> Does anybody know if there are MPEG cards (decoders) supported by LINUX
> ?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Eric.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



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Subject: Re: CD RW - Awful simple question
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 00:00:08 GMT

According to  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>       I'm not familiar with CD RW, and I was wondering if you can format a RW CD to
> act as another drive under Linux.  This obviously works on PCs,

Actually, it is a fair bit more complicated than you think.  First
off, to treat the CDRW as a drive you need to have a drive physically
capable of it -- the feature is called packet writing.  You also need
special software in order to use packet writing as well.  And the
disks you create in this way can *only* br read on other systems that
support a read-version of the driver.

And still there are restrictions.  You only get about 500 megs of data
space on a packet CD, and when you delete files, the space used by
them is not reclaimable.

>   but I'm not
> certain if this requires special software or drivers on the PC.

To my knowledge, there is no packet-writing software for linux.

>       All I want to use the CD RW for is backing up Linux.

You can easily burn partitions/directory trees directly to a disk in
iso format and this is a very reasonable way to make backups of
limited abounts of data.

-p.

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From: "Tuomo O. Vuolteenaho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I want to build a junk machine
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 23:57:01 GMT

> >  Socket 7 motherboard, tower case, power supply, floppy drive, hard
> >  disk, keyboard, mouse [+ other stuff.]

Check out www.pcbroker.com.  Their prices for this stuff look very
competitive, although the selection isn't that great.  I ordered some
stuff from them, if it gets here fine and works, I'll recommend them to
everybody. 

Also, www.pricewatch.com can help you to find the best prices for
barebone systems.  You just might want to build a junk system by buying a
new, junky computer.  That is, if the cost is the only issue.

> Hard disks are relatively expensive, even small ones.  Once a drive
> falls below about $150 it usually disappears from the market.  Maybe 
> find a used one.

CompUsa had a 8.4GB Maxtor UDMA HD for sale. $159 less manufacturers
rebate $30 plus a 5" TV.  That is, HD and a mini-TV for $129.  You have to
go to the store, this did not apply to web purchases.

> Floppy + keyboard + case + PS + mouse + motherboard screams "buy a
> whole used machine cheap."  You do not want to spend $150 on stuff
> for a Pentium 75 system, especially since you'll end up with a
> bunch of dead-end parts that won't carry forward to your next real
> machine.  (AT vs. ATX.)

I tend to agree. A barebone Celeron system, perhaps?

> I think you need too many parts for this upgrade to be worth it.
> You might want to see what a whole used Pentium 75 / 100 / 133
> machine minus monitor sells for in your area.  Try a computer 
> show.

I agree. (c) AOL.


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From: "Michael W. Ryder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Question: Asus P2-DS SCSI
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 16:13:17 -0800

I am using the P2-BS version of this mainboard with no problems with
2.0.36.

Michael W. Ryder
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Nobody wrote:
> 
> Is the Adaptec 2940U2W SCSI-adapter supported under Linux (2.2.x) yet ?
> I want to buy a Asus P2-DS mainboard which has this controller onboard to
> connect a Quantum 9.1 GB U2W-SCSI Harddisk on it but
> I need to be sure that I'll have a fair chance that it will work.
> (Otherwise I would have to buy an extra IDE harddisk and that would slowdown
> performance)
> 
> Anyone has experience with this configuration? Mail me or post a message....
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Lion O
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Chris Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: A more complete and well-formed question.
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 16:21:24 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

James P. Reem wrote:
> 
> >--snip--
> >i hate to say it, but buy a Mac.
> >--snip--
> 
> (and run linux on it, of course)
well.....no.  i know i should take c.o.l.a out of the list before
saying this, but i don't think linux is appropriate for this guy. 
>From the sound of things, what he's looking for is a stable windows
(i.e., an 'appliance' type machine).
of course, who cares what i think---probably the best solution would
to buy a second disk and see if he's willing to dedicate the time to
get linux to do what he wants.
-ckm

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 05 Mar 1999 19:21:43 -0500

Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne) writes:
> 
> > >The Xeon is not a "36-bit" machine, whatever that is... It merely has a
> > >36-bit physical address bus. 
> > 
> > That can be interpreted as meaning it supports 36 bit address spaces, so it
> > is a true statement.
> 
> That interpretation is simply incorrect.  Virtual addresses (which are
> the only kind that normal instructions ever deal with in protected
> mode) are 32 bits wide, just as in all x86 processors from the 80386
> on up.  The processor (in hardware, by referring to the page tables)
> translates these virtual addresses into physical memory addresses.
> It's immaterial how wide the physical address bus is.  The physical
> address bus could be 20 bits wide (not that I'd care to use such a
> machine), or 32 bits wide, or 40 bits wide.  The kernel sets up the
> mapping between virtual addresses and physical memory; the processor
> actually performs the mapping in hardware, and the user code never
> knows the difference.

riddle me this, how can i have more than 4 GB of data accessible from
one program?

-- 
                                           J o h a n  K u l l s t a m
                                           [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
                                              Don't Fear the Penguin!

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From: "Duane Elmer Smeckert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux killed the drive? Coincidence?
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 17:38:44 -0800

I loved the first issue of the Linux Journal that I bought.
That issue caused me to subscribe.

Anyway, the editor was talking about how Linux fried the
hard drive cable on his system.

He went on to tell how he installed Linux, then the cable got hot
and shorted.  Clearly it was not Linux, and just as clearly the
one followed from the other.

Anyway, Linux couldn't kill your drive so much that a low level
wouldn't fix it.  It sounds like you have a warranty issue.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message <7brhej$vur$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I installed Linux last weekend onto my master drive, which went smoothly
>enough; however, after the install was complete my slave hard drive (an 11
>month old Western Digital Caviar 5.1 AC35100L) went south.
>
>It now reports S.M.A.R.T. status as bad on boot up, and scandisk can't
>read/repair the "end" of the drive.
>
>Does this seem like an extremely unfortunately timed coincidence, or could
any
>part of a Linux install cause something like this?
>
>I'm sure it's the former, but thought it's worth asking, just in case...so
I
>don't fry another drive. <g>
>
>
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From: "Sarah V. Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I can't find support for the Turtle Beach Montege A3d sound card
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 18:38:32 -0500

If anyone has set-up the Montego A3d sound Card with Redhat 5.2  I would
appreciate help.
I have run sndconfig and it does not recognize the card.  Thanks!


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From: "Ishai Parasol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can't use my mouse in X
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 12:28:51 +0200

Hello

I've installed a redhat 5.0 system on my old 486 computer and i have
installed the Xfree86 too. everything seems to work accept that I
can't use the mouse in X. there is a cursor on the screen but it
does'nt move. i have one of those cheap taiwanian 5$ mouses which
connected on /dev/cua0 (com1).
I tried to change all the options in the mouses list in the
mouseconfig but nothing helps.
What can I do to solve this problem ?

thanks in advance
Ishai Parasol

[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.redhat,alt.linux
Subject: CPU Question
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 17:10:47 -0800

Sorry, I hate cross-posting, but I have a question. I am becoming rather
anti-Intel because their processors' prices tend to be quite high,
whereas AMD's K6 line is much more efficient and inexpensive. So my
question is: are there any benchmarks/stats about the performance of
K6's in Linux? If they are compatible I will wait for the K7 to come out
and use it with RedHat Linux 5.2.

Regards,

Spud

P.S.  Please reply via email instead of Usenet. Thanks!



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From: Chris Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can someone help?
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 16:44:51 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

download or buy Matt Welsh's _Running Linux_.
-ckm

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 06 Mar 1999 17:48:00 -0500

Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> "David A. Frantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I think you hit on one problem at the very least and that is if you want to
> > get away from I386 you have only one other mass produced platform and that
> > is Apples Mac.    When dealling with software I do not think binary
> > compatablity is s big deal for Linux users.    After all if you want to run
> > something you can just recompile it.
> 
> For better or for worse, the latter statement is not true, and it's
> becoming less and less true.  If your goal is to run Oracle, Informix,
> DB/2, Sybase, or what have you, binary compatibility is essential.

true.  but to exploit a 36 bit address space in order to use more than
4 GB on a xeon, would require recompiling those applications.  so your
program falls into two buckets:

1) something which you can port or find a port of for linux alpha or
   sparc solaris  &c.

2) something which exists only in binary format on i386 linux.

now in case 1, you can use the 64 bit processor.  in case 2, you
can't, but neither can you exploit over 4 GB.

therefore, there is no point in trying to make a far pointer memory
model for linux on the x86.  should you need big memory, just use
a 64 bit platform.

-- 
                                           J o h a n  K u l l s t a m
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From: garv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Maxtor 8.4 Gig Drive.
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 16:40:59 -0800

Stephen La Joie wrote:

> I got this Maxtor 8.4 gig drive so I could run linux and Win95 from the
> same disk.
> I've done this before.
>
> The Maxtor drive came with floppy to partition the drive. I could not
> use the
> Dos fdisk to partition the drive. I created dos partitions using the
> program
> on the Maxtor floppy disk. I figured I could delete two of the dos
> partitions
> to make room for my linux partitions. The Maxtor program installed this
> EZ-Drive, which plays silly numbers games with the sectors, heads, and
> cylinders.
>
> Okay, so the Linux fdisk can't read the partitions. It see the small
> boot
> partion I made for windows (the first 150 Megs) but the 2nd, 3rd, 4th
> and 5th partitions are all one big partition that happens after that.
>
> I read the Large Disk Mini HOWTO. Like most other Linux Howtos,
> it doesn't say squat about "how to", but I am now fully informed as to
> what's
> going on and can almost write my own replacement for the BIOS  int 13
> for Win 95 and fdisk program. What the HOWTO seems to say, is that
> the Linux fdisk is suppose to be able to figure out that EZ-drive is
> installed,
> and that I have no problem.
>

Sounds like you tried a fat16 DOS disk?
Also, RH 5.2 and  newer kernel  support larger drives.
(I be using the same Maxtor drive as I speak)



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc;
Subject: Re: cpu has "F0 0F" bug?
Date: 5 Mar 1999 22:57:05 GMT

Under what conditions is this bug triggered?  Wouldn't have already been
triggered if Microsoft hadn't have implemented a fix?  Or is it one of
those "sparratic" things that happens?

        - Mike

On Fri, 5 Mar 1999 17:11:54 -0500, matthew.r.pavlovich.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
        wrote:
>The F0 0F bug was the first two instructions of a 32-bit instruction that
>would lock all P5 processors.  It locked the bus as it would in a dual CPU
>configuration, but since it was a full 32-bit instruction and no 2nd CPU
>was there, there is no way to unlock the bus. 
>
>The linux kernel inplemented a work around in 5 hours.  FreeBSD beat us,
>they had there fix in 3.  I have not yet heard if microsoft has fixed it.
>This bug is 2 yrs old.
>
>-Matt
>
>On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, ag wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I've just built a machine with an Intel 233MMX cpu.  On boot, Linux
>> states "Intel pentium with F0 0F bug - work around enabled".  
>> 
>> Any info (or pointers to info) on this bug will be greatly
>> appreciated.....
>> 
>> Andrew
>> 
>> 
>> 
>
>


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