Linux-Hardware Digest #586, Volume #14            Sun, 8 Apr 01 02:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Experience with KVM switches? (Miguel Cruz)
  PCPARTNER MB and SoundBlaster ("Stephen Petersen")
  Linux and Emachines (Robert)
  Re: OR840 - "CMOS battery failure detected"?  Any clues? ("Dr. Mueller")
  Re: Experience with KVM switches? ("Brett I. Holcomb")
  Re: Isa and pci problems ("Blushade")
  Re: OR840 - "CMOS battery failure detected"?  Any clues? ("Michael Dauria")
  Re: Linux and Emachines (Demondognet)
  Re: Isa and pci problems (Eric P. McCoy)
  Re: Isa and pci problems (Eric P. McCoy)
  Re: Isa and pci problems (Eric P. McCoy)
  Re: how to get higher resolution redhat 7 (Eric P. McCoy)
  Re: OR840 - "CMOS battery failure detected"?  Any clues? ("Dr. Mueller")
  Parallel port (Erik Hallsten)
  Re: CDROM Rip rate (Christian Garms)
  Re: Experience with KVM switches? (TJ Snider)
  Re: OR840 - "CMOS battery failure detected"?  Any clues? ("Michael Dauria")
  Re: OR840 - "CMOS battery failure detected"?  Any clues? ("Michael Dauria")
  Re: Abit BP6/ APIC error with Kernel-2.4.2 (Juergen Pfann)
  G450 TV-Out under Linux (David Maslen)
  Promise ata100 ("mryucky")
  Re: RH7.0 on A7M266, worth it? (Tom Roberts)
  Re: Linux and Emachines (Tom Roberts)
  Re: RH7.0 on A7M266, worth it? ("jack willis")

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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Experience with KVM switches?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miguel Cruz)
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 23:15:37 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, TJ Snider  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My machines would be Macintosh and Linux(Wintel HW), I'd like to have
> support for about 4 machines and preferably the option of having an ADB
> keyboard as the controlling keyboard (I really like my split keyboard).
>
> Does anyone have any positive experiences with these, I've seen a wide range
> of products out there, most are over $300 and I'd like to hear some
> recommendations before I put down the $$$.

I haven't used any of the units that support ADB (just old-fashioned PC
keyboard and mouse ports), so I don't have specific model recommendations,
but I can tell you this:

Not many of them do well with monitors at extremely high resolutions/refresh
rates. The picture can get wobbly or washed-out. If you're planning on
working at 1600x1200 or so, make sure you have a money-back guarantee so you
can test it with your equipment. Also make sure you get really high-quality
video cables.

miguel

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From: "Stephen Petersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PCPARTNER MB and SoundBlaster
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 09:57:22 +1000

Has anyone got the soundcard working on this Motherboard with RedHat 7?

Steve



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From: Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux and Emachines
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 00:28:29 GMT

Has anybody successfully installed Mandrake Linux on these boxes? If so,
what are your experiences with it. I am interested in getting a 633is.

Thanks,
Robert


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From: "Dr. Mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.intel
Subject: Re: OR840 - "CMOS battery failure detected"?  Any clues?
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 00:42:44 GMT

> I have a feeling the manual may be badly written.
> You don't use the jumper to get into the BIOS. The jumper is the clear
> CMOS jumper. When you set it to pin 2-3 it switches off the power for
> the CMOS thus resetting it back to factory default. When this jumper is
> on pins 2-3 the system will not start.

Well, I wish that were the case.  The manual clearly states that jumper J1F2
is the BIOS Configuration Jumper.  When set on pins 2-3 this displays the
Configuration Manager program (BIOS editor).  This has worked on occasion,
but this error baffles me.

Regards.




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From: "Brett I. Holcomb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Experience with KVM switches?
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 20:09:09 -0500

You can't go wrong with BlackBox (www.blackbox.com) products.  Check out
their web site and the specs.


--
Brett I. Holcomb
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

AKA Grunt<><


"Miguel Cruz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:tcNz6.5660$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, TJ Snider  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > My machines would be Macintosh and Linux(Wintel HW), I'd like to have
> > support for about 4 machines and preferably the option of having an ADB
> > keyboard as the controlling keyboard (I really like my split keyboard).
> >
> > Does anyone have any positive experiences with these, I've seen a wide
range
> > of products out there, most are over $300 and I'd like to hear some
> > recommendations before I put down the $$$.
>
> I haven't used any of the units that support ADB (just old-fashioned PC
> keyboard and mouse ports), so I don't have specific model recommendations,
> but I can tell you this:
>
> Not many of them do well with monitors at extremely high
resolutions/refresh
> rates. The picture can get wobbly or washed-out. If you're planning on
> working at 1600x1200 or so, make sure you have a money-back guarantee so
you
> can test it with your equipment. Also make sure you get really
high-quality
> video cables.
>
> miguel



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From: "Blushade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Isa and pci problems
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 01:30:35 GMT

tell me this, /proc/pci  reads  irq as 10 i/o as 0xe800 [0xe801]
it is a linksys card - nc100....  oh yeah I went to to modules.conf file and
added  "alias eth0 tulip" which is the correct driver.  also ran netconfig
add a ip, submask adress, and gateway.   I guess that would mean that linux
sucks at reading its own drivers, or card is broken.


"Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Blushade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  Well maybe because I have to install it on linux box,
>
> Then read the instruction manual for your room. You do HAVE the box
> in a room, don't you?
>
> > the full story, I have an isa card that is not seen bye the bios or
pnpdump.
>
> Then complain. It's the hardware's business to locate it. The OS can0t
> do anything if the hardware won't! Free up an irq for it, turn off
> PnP, and load the driver with the chosen irq and io parameters.
>
> > I have a pci card that is seen be the bios, and is not seen bye linux.
>
> Nonsense. Linux just reads the pci bus registers, The O/S has nothing
> to do with pci handshaking and negotiation. Cat /proc/pci and see!
>
> Your problem is that you have a misconception. Get it out of your head.
> When you realize that the hardware configures the card, and the O/S
> reads the hardwares output, and that you have to load a driver for the
> hardware, you will be beginning to get somewhere ...
>
> Peter



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From: "Michael Dauria" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.intel
Subject: Re: OR840 - "CMOS battery failure detected"?  Any clues?
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 01:42:51 GMT

Did you disable the splash screen?

You don't need to touch the jumper on the mainboard if you have the splash
screen enabled. I have had my board for about a year and I have never
touched that jumper.

"Dr. Mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8uOz6.14073$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I have a feeling the manual may be badly written.
> > You don't use the jumper to get into the BIOS. The jumper is the clear
> > CMOS jumper. When you set it to pin 2-3 it switches off the power for
> > the CMOS thus resetting it back to factory default. When this jumper is
> > on pins 2-3 the system will not start.
>
> Well, I wish that were the case.  The manual clearly states that jumper
J1F2
> is the BIOS Configuration Jumper.  When set on pins 2-3 this displays the
> Configuration Manager program (BIOS editor).  This has worked on occasion,
> but this error baffles me.
>
> Regards.
>
>
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Demondognet)
Date: 08 Apr 2001 01:45:47 GMT
Subject: Re: Linux and Emachines

I have a 667ir and have set up rh7.0 with no problems. Everthing seems to run
great.

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Subject: Re: Isa and pci problems
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric P. McCoy)
Date: 07 Apr 2001 22:27:22 -0400

Is English your native language?  Normally I don't bring it up, but
your articles are _really_ difficult to understand - some of your
others took me three or four tries before it made any sense at all.

If it is your native language, we can save a whole lot of time if you
spend more time making your followups legible.

"Blushade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> tell me this, /proc/pci  reads  irq as 10 i/o as 0xe800 [0xe801]
> it is a linksys card - nc100....  oh yeah I went to to modules.conf file and
> added  "alias eth0 tulip" which is the correct driver.  also ran netconfig
> add a ip, submask adress, and gateway.   

See, the reason a lot of people are seeming confrontational is that
we're having to extract information from you as if we were pulling
teeth.  What have you tried?  Do you get any error messages?  What
_exactly_ is the error?  You said at first that Linux didn't detect
the card, but this is obviously false, as /proc/pci lists it.

-- 
Eric McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  "Knowing that a lot of people across the world with Geocities sites
absolutely despise me is about the only thing that can add a positive
spin to this situation."  - Something Awful, 1/11/2001

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Subject: Re: Isa and pci problems
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric P. McCoy)
Date: 07 Apr 2001 22:29:09 -0400

"Blushade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The ISA card is a Intel -Ethernet 16-bit lan adapter.  On the card it says
> IRQ 11     I/O 210 - 21F

I assume, then, that this isn't a PnP card.  You need to tell Linux
the relevant numbers before it will work.

-- 
Eric McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  "Knowing that a lot of people across the world with Geocities sites
absolutely despise me is about the only thing that can add a positive
spin to this situation."  - Something Awful, 1/11/2001

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Subject: Re: Isa and pci problems
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric P. McCoy)
Date: 07 Apr 2001 22:32:48 -0400

"Blushade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> the full story, I have an isa card that is not seen bye the bios or pnpdump.

Then I'd guess it's not a PnP card.  Read the card's manual to
determine how to configure the I/O address, and IRQ and DMA numbers.
Then load the appropriate module and explicitly specify those three
numbers (you may not need a DMA, it probably depends).

> I have a pci card that is seen be the bios, and is not seen bye linux.

What makes you think Linux doesn't see it?

> can anyone piont my to a program  in run level 3 that will help me install
> my isa or pci in linux.

What does being in runlevel 3 have to do with installing an expansion
card, or even with installing _drivers_ for an expansion card?

-- 
Eric McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  "Knowing that a lot of people across the world with Geocities sites
absolutely despise me is about the only thing that can add a positive
spin to this situation."  - Something Awful, 1/11/2001

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Subject: Re: how to get higher resolution redhat 7
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric P. McCoy)
Date: 07 Apr 2001 22:36:40 -0400

"tony" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> My display card is winfast geforce2 mx, monitor is petvision 17'', after
> installing redhat7, i can only get 640*480 resolution, what can i do to get
> higher resolution?

Assuming you have the appropriate drivers set up, press
Ctrl+Alt+NumPadPlus to cycle through the resolutions.  Or you can edit
your /etc/X11/XF86Config (or /etc/X11/XF86Config-4) file, find the
right entry, and change the order of resolutions.

You might see something like:

  Modes           "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" "512x384"

Put the resolution you want as default first.  Be sure to do this for
the correct pixel depth, as there's a different section for each.

-- 
Eric McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  "Knowing that a lot of people across the world with Geocities sites
absolutely despise me is about the only thing that can add a positive
spin to this situation."  - Something Awful, 1/11/2001

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From: "Dr. Mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.intel
Subject: Re: OR840 - "CMOS battery failure detected"?  Any clues?
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 03:07:06 GMT

Have you ever updated the BIOS then?  Because according to the manual, you
have to move that jumper to reset the BIOS.  Just wondered.  As for the
splash screen, the guy who thought he could help turned that screen off as
it was supposed to speed up the boot process.

Regards.



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From: Erik Hallsten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Parallel port
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 22:50:00 +0300

I hawo parallel ports

I do likt to have Linux to recognize
parallel port nr 2 , in dos LPT2

I have my Iomega Zip 100 Mb  station
coupled to that port

Instructions please.

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From: Christian Garms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CDROM Rip rate
Date: 08 Apr 2001 15:06:21 +0200

Tom Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Does anybody know how fast the various CDROM drives can rip audio CDs
> into .wav files? They all specify their speed for CDROMs, but audio 
> speed is VERY different....

I've got a Toshiba 6402B and it handles RIP speeds between 6x-11x (inner 
to outer sectors). Also good are Pioneer CD-Rs.

-- 
regards,
        Christian               mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Subject: Re: Experience with KVM switches?
From: TJ Snider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.pc.hardware
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 04:45:57 GMT

Which models have used?

TJ

> From: "Brett I. Holcomb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Organization: Holcomb & Associates
> Newsgroups: 
> comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.pc.
> hardware
> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 20:09:09 -0500
> Subject: Re: Experience with KVM switches?
> 
> You can't go wrong with BlackBox (www.blackbox.com) products.  Check out
> their web site and the specs.
> 
> 
> --
> Brett I. Holcomb
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> AKA Grunt<><


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From: "Michael Dauria" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.intel
Subject: Re: OR840 - "CMOS battery failure detected"?  Any clues?
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 05:00:20 GMT

Yes, I have updated the BIOS a bunch of times. The board I have originally
came with ver 215, now I'm up to 248. I have probably updated the BIOS at
least 5 times, probably more. Where do you see info about upgrading the BIOS
in the manual? In my manual it doesn't say anything at all. I downloaded the
pdf file for the BIOS and it says to follow the instructions that come with
the BIOS upgrade but the upgrade does not make any mention of moving any
jumpers. The BIOS also contains a button to reset the configuration and that
should actually be good enough.

I don't think the splash screen slows down the boot all that much. On my
machine I have an Adaptec 29160 SCSI controller, this controller is
definately the slow poke of the boot process. The OR840 boots pretty fast
compared to my old DK440LX, now that thing was really slow.

"Dr. Mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:uBQz6.14167$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Have you ever updated the BIOS then?  Because according to the manual, you
> have to move that jumper to reset the BIOS.  Just wondered.  As for the
> splash screen, the guy who thought he could help turned that screen off as
> it was supposed to speed up the boot process.
>
> Regards.
>
>



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From: "Michael Dauria" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.intel
Subject: Re: OR840 - "CMOS battery failure detected"?  Any clues?
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 05:02:06 GMT

One other question, how long does your system take to boot up? Just
wondering why you turned of the splash screen. Even with my SCSI adapter I
am usually through the POST in about 15 seconds.

"Dr. Mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:uBQz6.14167$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Have you ever updated the BIOS then?  Because according to the manual, you
> have to move that jumper to reset the BIOS.  Just wondered.  As for the
> splash screen, the guy who thought he could help turned that screen off as
> it was supposed to speed up the boot process.
>
> Regards.
>
>



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From: Juergen Pfann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Abit BP6/ APIC error with Kernel-2.4.2
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 06:14:06 +0200

Uwe Bonnes wrote:
> 
> Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : What is happening here is that linux 2.4 is reporting APIC errors where
> : linux 2.2 did not report APIC errors. It was still getting them, just not
> : reporting them to klogd.
> 
> Are you sure you didnīt overclock? 2.4 started to log those errors, so with
> 2.2 these errors might have been present, but not logged. I only had apic
> errors while I tried to overclock.
> 

I haven't dared to o/c yet - without that, I haven't seen *any* APIC 
error yet; I seem to be one of the "lucky" BP6 guys, unlike e.g. 
some in this NG, linux.kernel, or the BP6 mailing list - and yes, 
these reports were with 2.2.x also. 

Juergen

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Subject: G450 TV-Out under Linux
From: David Maslen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 08 Apr 2001 14:30:56 +1000

Some feedback for you.

I purchased a G450 recently. I was interested in the TV-Out feature,
and was hoping to use both my PAL Television set and 17" monitor with
Xfree86. I now discover this feature is unsupported.

My decision to purchase a Matrox card was largely based on the
excellent reputation I believed Matrox to have in relation to it's
history of publishing video card specifications to Xfree86 developers.

While I am impressed with the G450, and the linux forums you provide,
I am a little disapointed with my Matrox purchase and would hesitate
to recommend Matrox video cards to fellow linux users in Australia.

While I prefer the open source model, I would probably be satisfied
with binary drivers which would support the the matrox card on an open
source operating system like linux. 

I do consider it my own fault that I purchased a G450 rather than a
G400, however my purchase decision was largely based on brand loyalty
and my assumption was "a higher number will be better". I should have
done my reseach prior to purchase. I hope to do better next time.
 

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From: "mryucky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Promise ata100
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 05:21:55 GMT

Someone please tell me that there is a driver for the promise ata100
harddrive controller......



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Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 21:49:22 -0500
From: Tom Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.comp.hardware.amd.thunderbird,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: RH7.0 on A7M266, worth it?

Jeffrey Yu wrote:
> Yes, the question is whether it is worth to have RH7.0 installed on a
> A7M266 motherboard, the CPU in mind is the 1.33G, and 512MB RAM.
> The alternative is the A7V133A, any comment at all?  TIA.

I have an A7V133 and love it.

Yes, benchmarks can distinguish between DDR and PC133 memory, just like 
they can distinguish between 800 and 1300 MHz processors. But _YOU_ almost
certainly won't be able to, EXCEPT IN YOUR WALLET!

For all but the tiny percentage of programs which can execute mostly
cache-bound[##], the core speed of the CPU is almost irrelevant: what
matters is memory speed. For memory speed, what matters is ACCESS TIME and
not data rate. Those DDR RAMs have the same 60-70 ns (or so) access time as
PC133 RAMs.

        [##] "mostly" is >98%; for even a 3% cache miss rate the CPU 
        wastes time waiting on memory (in our simulations, at least).

This is a highly technical question of how the data actually gets from
memory to the CPU (reads outnumber writes by typically 4:1 or more, so
one normally optimizes for reads). I do NOT know what these motherboard
chipsets can do, but I do know about our memory controllers (this is
for a PowerPC system, not Intel/AMD). Our current memory controller takes
12 clocks per memory access of which the last 4 carry data. So DDR memory
would reduce that to 10 clocks, less than 20% improvement. BUT -- that
improvement is LOST unless the memory controller can overlap a sufficient
number of requests to keep the memory bus occupied. Ours can have 4 
requests outstanding, but for DDR that is not enough, and there is no
advantage whatsoever of DDR over PC133, IN OUR DESIGN. YMMV, and I
suspect the motherboard chipset designers worry about this a lot....

Unless the motherboard chipset can keep at least 8 memory requests
outstanding AND OVERLAP THEM, and unless you have multiple DIMMs which
are appropriately interleaved (so different requests hit different
memory banks), DDR will have essentially no advantage over PC133 at all.
(This assumes the processor is pipelined enough so 8 memory requests can
exist.... Our PowerPCs can just about do that, but I don't know about
Pentiums or Athlons....).

        I am not the hardware designer of the system I mentioned, I
        do OS software for it. It is an embedded PowerPC "supercomputer
        on a board" completely unrelated to the PC market. I know enough
        about this to be dangerous.... And I know NOTHING about the
        details of Pentiums or Athlons or PC chipsets.


Tom Roberts

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Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 21:53:06 -0500
From: Tom Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and Emachines

Robert wrote:
> Has anybody successfully installed Mandrake Linux on these boxes? If so,
> what are your experiences with it. I am interested in getting a 633is.

I have have rather bad experience with eMachines. They are quite cheap,
and IMHO overpriced.


Tom Roberts

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From: "jack willis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: RH7.0 on A7M266, worth it?
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 16:04:09 +1000

i was just gunna say that!!




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