Linux-Hardware Digest #630, Volume #9            Thu, 11 Mar 99 12:13:22 EST

Contents:
  Re: Internal ATAPI zip incompatible? (Neil Faulks)
  CD Audio + SndBlst PCI 64 = sound of silence ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Any expirience with the GA-6BXDS Dual/SCSI PII board ? (Ulrich Leodolter)
  Re: Help Me Pick A Laptop Please (Mohd H Misnan)
  Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (John Burton)
  Re: hard disk partitioning problems (Jim Henderson)
  Re: Linux on a Celeron? (Jim Henderson)
  Re: Linux on a Celeron? (Jim Henderson)
  RealTek Linux driver "rtl8139.c" (Claudio Candio)
  Re: Linux and a 8088 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: scsi harddisk cache ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Hardware choice ("James Kosin")
  Help with ghostscript ("John")
  motherboard with on-board scsi ("J�rgen Persson")
  Re: AMD k6-2 and 3D Now! under Linux. ("Rodney Beede")
  Re: HOW CAN I FORMAT DAT TAPES?? (Markus Wandel)
  CDs brennen... (Alexander Schliebner)
  Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (Carlos Wexler)
  Re: Need a 16 meg Video card recommendation w/RedHat 5.2 support. (Johan Groth)
  Re: dual K6-III boards anywhere ? (Jason McKnight)
  Re: 3c905b-TX with Mandrake 5.3 (or any Linux2.2) (Jason McKnight)
  Re: TNT help in RedHat (Jason McKnight)
  Re: motherboard with on-board scsi (Jason McKnight)
  Ethernet vs. SCSI (Christopher Howard)
  Re: Speed..Speed..Speed (John Burton)

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From: Neil Faulks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Internal ATAPI zip incompatible?
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 12:06:42 GMT

I have not been able to solve this problem myself, but I do have more
information. The dual capacity reporting is a sign of having an ATAPI2 Zip
drive. Note that the two capacities differ by 16K. But changing the "A:"
jumper doesn't seem to have an effect!!!!

We now have four different sorts of ATA(PI) Zip drives - what are Iomega
playing at!

Despite Jeffrey's success below I have not been able to get ATAPI2 versions
working under linux at all. I can instantly solve the problem by replacing the
drive with a non-ATAPI2 model such as P/N 03019D00

I presume that a new Linux driver will be able to cope with these new drives,
but I haven't found one yet.

All these drives have the same Model number, which makes it very difficult to
get what we want from our suppliers. Watch out as ATAPI2 Zip drives are now
being shipped as both OEM (P/N 04057D01) and retail (P/N 02965D04) parts.

I am now fed up with Iomega.

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Jeffrey D Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >      hdd: The drive reports both 100663296 and
> >100646912 bytes as its capacity
> >
> >      hdd: hdd1 hdd2 hdd3 hdd4
> >
>
> I finally solved my problem.  I did two things, and I'm not absolutely
> certain which one or ones did the trick but here they are:


Neil Faulks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CD Audio + SndBlst PCI 64 = sound of silence
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:54:12 GMT



Hi,

I can't play CDs through my SoundBlaster PCI 64. I can run cdplayer and it
plays the tracks from the cd ok, but nothing comes through the speakers.

Here are the facts:

* Can play under Win95. Read: the little wire thing is connected inside.
* Can play samples using 'play'. Read: /dev/audio works.
* /dev/dsp works too.
* Using kernel 2.2.2 with about all the sound support in.
* RH 5.2
* I've tried playing the cd and playing with the mixer settings. No effect.
* /dev/audio0 does *not* seem to work. Is this normal?
* cat /dev/sndstat gives  "sndstat: Operation not supported by device"

I've tried everything I can think of and read every HOWTO etc. It's driving me
nuts.

TIA,

Simon Edwards
simoned (at) eisa (dot) net (dot) au

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From: Ulrich Leodolter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Any expirience with the GA-6BXDS Dual/SCSI PII board ?
Date: 11 Mar 1999 14:27:11 +0100


The GA-6BXDS is cheap compared to the ASUS P2 P2B-DS INTEL 440BX
board, what makes the difference ?

-- 
o------------------------------------------------o
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 University of Vienna, Institute of Psychology
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mohd H Misnan)
Subject: Re: Help Me Pick A Laptop Please
Date: 10 Mar 1999 13:49:05 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ender Wiggin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I was hoping someone could direct me to a model of laptop where
>everything works under Linux (soundcard, CD, modem or nic, etc.).  My
>price range is not alot, I want to keep it as close to $1,000 U.S. as I
>can, and definitely under $1,500.

There're quite a number of companies selling sub US$1500 with specs like
AMDK6-2/333Mhz, 4GigHD, 32Meg RAM & 12.1" TFT. I'm currently running 
Linux on Mitac 5033 (Mitac is OEM manufacturer for number of companies
in US including AMS Tech - Roadster series).. and UMAX, Sager and few
others are offering almost the same specs with the same price. Check out
running Linux on notebook homepage, don't have the URL offhand but you
may get the website by using search engines. Most of internal modems for
notebook are WinModem, so beware.. you may need to get yourself a PCMCIA
modem and network card. 

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From: John Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 13:31:37 GMT

Johan Kullstam wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Brown) writes:
> 
> > On 10 Mar 1999 16:38:51 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >...
> > >MS doesn't want to do business on unix.  it could interfere with its
> > >windows sales.  if i could run ms-office on solaris, then i could make
> > >a solid case to my boss to get rid of my pc running microsoft windows
> > >and get me a sparcstation on my desktop.
> >
> > but why can't you run staroffice, or corel WP suite, or applixware, and
> > still make that solid case to get rid of the PC right now?
> > It's compatible with office?
> 
> it's not all *that* compatible.  my documents tend to be chock full of
> equations and figures.  straight text is done ok.  tables survive
> usually.  figures maybe.  equations, not a chance.  i'd love to use
> AMS-LaTeX but the US DoD requires all documentation be submitted in
> `MS-Word 6.0 for Windows' format.
> 

Yup! I find it interesting that the Department of Justice is after
Microsoft for their "Monopoly", but the rest of the Federal Government
(DoD & NASA in Particular) is busy *increasing* the monopoly by
*requiring* electronic communications use an MS Office document format
(Word, Excel, PowerPoint, etc), and of course MS Office only runs on
Windows...;-)

Go figure...;-)

John
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From: Jim Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hard disk partitioning problems
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 12:58:40 -0700

No information to help, but I ran into a similar problem during the
install of 5.2...

I've got a multifat partition (using System Commander Deluxe) with WinNT
4.0, Win95, Win98, and DOS 6.22 on it.  When I went to install RH52 on
the system, it took no less than 4 tries for Disk Druid to get the
partitioning right.

I also use a Quantum Fireball, but mine's the 3.2 GB version.

I allocated 128 MB of disk space to my /swap partition, and the rest to
my root partition.  However, upon examiniation, Disk Druid had created
an extended partition and three Unix partitions - the root partition
only worked out to about 19 MB - clearly not enough for even a minimal
Linux installation.

I've no idea what changed, but now it's working fine - and I can still
use Win95/98/NT/DOS.  I had a wierd problem a couple days later with TX
timeouts on my NIC, but that problem also cleared itself up.

Jim
-- 
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Novell Support Connection SysOp - http://support.novell.com/forums

Homepage at http://www.bigfoot.com/~jhenderson (email instructions
located here)

Please note that as an NSC SysOp, I do not provide support for Novell
products on a personal basis - if you need help with a Novell product,
please post a reply in the public newsgroup or visit the Novell support
forums at the URL above.

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From: Jim Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on a Celeron?
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 12:53:25 -0700

I've been looking for some information on this hardware mod - can you
point me at a source for information?

Jim (wanting MP without the price! <g>)

BL wrote:
> even two celerons are ok - if you do the hardware mod.  I'm running dual cel.
> (smp) and have been for a few weeks now.  almost a 2x increase.

-- 
Jim Henderson
Novell Support Connection SysOp - http://support.novell.com/forums

Homepage at http://www.bigfoot.com/~jhenderson (email instructions
located here)

Please note that as an NSC SysOp, I do not provide support for Novell
products on a personal basis - if you need help with a Novell product,
please post a reply in the public newsgroup or visit the Novell support
forums at the URL above.

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From: Jim Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on a Celeron?
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 12:52:26 -0700

I'm running Redhat 5.2 on a Celeron 300A...No problems so far.

Jim

Charles D. Balazs, Jr. wrote:
> 
> Has anyone ever heard of or experienced problems running Linux on a
> Celeron machine?  This would be a Celeron 366...
-- 
Jim Henderson
Novell Support Connection SysOp - http://support.novell.com/forums

Homepage at http://www.bigfoot.com/~jhenderson (email instructions
located here)

Please note that as an NSC SysOp, I do not provide support for Novell
products on a personal basis - if you need help with a Novell product,
please post a reply in the public newsgroup or visit the Novell support
forums at the URL above.

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From: Claudio Candio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RealTek Linux driver "rtl8139.c"
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 15:15:10 +0100

Hi,

I'm looking for the last version (v1.05 of 2/25/99) of the RealTek Linux

driver "rtl8139.c", because I've got many problems with some Linux
systems
with this chip.

The related html page
http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/rtl8139.html,
though reports the v1.05 as the last version, it links the v1.04 of the
"rtl8139.c".

Can anybody help me?
Thank you for any information.

=================
Claudio Candio
Italy (Rome)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux and a 8088
Date: 11 Mar 99 12:01:09 GMT

Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> IIRC, Linux can't be run natively on anything less than an 80386.

Thats not true... you can run linux on a palmpilot, for example.. :)
Check out ELKS[1] if you want to run on an 8088. 

robert

[1] http://www.linux.org.uk/ELKS-Home/index.html

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: scsi harddisk cache
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:39:41 GMT

And if it's off, does anybody know how to turn it ON
under linux ? Something similar to EZ-SCSI for windows..

best,
Anton

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Rene Windiks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> does anybody know, how one can check if the disk
> cache of a (scsi) harddisk in enabled or disabled?
> Does exist a linux tool for this?
>
> Best regards,
> Rene Windiks.
>
> --
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>
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From: "James Kosin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hardware choice
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:42:50 GMT

Dear Claude Chaudet,

Buy a brand new 486 system!!!!!!

I'm running with an upgraded PPro system and it doesn't work very
well.  I'm having problems!!!!!

Good Luck,
James Kosin

Claude Chaudet wrote in message ...
|Hello,
|
|I am planning to buy anew PC soon. I would like to be sure I can use
linux
|with it. So I wonder if there exist drivers for the hardware I am
planning
|to buy. If anybody had an experience with some of these, could you
telle
|me how good it works and what I should do to install it ? (URLs to
d/l
|drivers etc...)
|
|Monitor : IIyama vision master pro 450 (19")
|Mouse : Logitech USB wheel
|CD-Rom : Plextor 40x SCSI
|SCSI adapter : Adaptec 2940 UW2
|Video card : ATI fury AGP (ATI 128 based)
|Sound card : SB 128 PCI
|Network adapter : NE2000 - PCI
|Hard drive : IBM 4.5 Go UW2
|
|I am quite a newbie in the PC world. I don't know if a SCSI-only PC
can
|support Linux...
|
|Thanks.
|
| Claude.
|


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From: "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help with ghostscript
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:46:40 GMT

Hi, I'd like to use ghostscript to print in linux with my Epson printer.  I
driver I want to use it stc600p.upp (or soemthing like that).  I have read
the file called Setting up a Unix lpr filter for Ghostscript and have gotten
to the part where I have to edit the printcap file.  I have no clue what to
do now.  Any help out there?  Thanks.

-John



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From: "J�rgen Persson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: motherboard with on-board scsi
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 16:29:12 +0100

Any recommendations for a good motherboard with on-board scsi.

Chipset: Intel BX
Kernel: 2.2.3
Dist.: Redhat 5.2

I was thinking of AOpen AX6B+ but heard there was some problems.

-- 
J�rgen Persson
Sysadmin, TLTH

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From: "Rodney Beede" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AMD k6-2 and 3D Now! under Linux.
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 08:41:58 -0600

Jakub Chmielewski wrote in message <_r6E2.1936$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I would like to build a linux server based on amd k6-2. I also want to use
>the machine in its idle time (during the night) to compress cd music into
>mp3s.
>I know that 3d now! instructions are generally unused under linux. But is
>there any mp3 compressor (for linux of course) that uses the feature? Can
3d
>now be used to compress mp3?


If you try going to mp3's web site (www.mp3.com) they have a bunch of linux
utilities for mp3 so they might have what you are looking for.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Markus Wandel)
Subject: Re: HOW CAN I FORMAT DAT TAPES??
Date: 11 Mar 1999 12:48:53 GMT

In article <7c7u3a$noh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Villy Kruse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, david horner  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I need to formatdat tapes . They are blank or mud. 
>>How can I do it in linux 2.0.3?
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Used date tapes for several years and never knew that they needed
>formatting.  They just worked.

Quote from an old Archive Python manual...

  When you insert a blank cassette in the Python drive for the first time,
  it will be automatically formatted.  The Python drive first detectes that
  the tape is blank (about 10-12 seconds).  It then formats the tape when it
  receives the first WRITE command that stores more than 126 kilobytes of
  data (total) or when it receives an ERASE command.  The formatting operation
  takes about 30 seconds.

  If the first WRITE command stores less than 126 kilobytes of data, the data
  is placed in the buffer until the next WRITE command exceeds the 126-kilobyte
  buffer capacity and forces the stored data to actually be written to tape.
  At the time the data is actually written to the tape, the Python drive
  formats the tape before completing the operation.

So in a nutshell, don't worry about it.

Markus

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From: Alexander Schliebner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CDs brennen...
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:49:33 +0100

Hallo Leute,

ich habe einen SCSI-CD-Brenner (CD-Recordable/CD-Rewritable)  Philips
CDD3660, versuche Daten- und Audio-CDs zu brennen und habe nur Probleme.

Ich bin auf Linux noch ziemlich unerfahren. Mit cdrecord hat er mir
folgende Fehlermeldungen ausgespuckt:

-snip--------------------------------------------------------

cdrecord: Input/output error. close track/session: scsi sendcmd:
retryable error
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
cdrecord: fifo had 631 puts and 631 gets.
cdrecord: fifo was 23 times empty and 5 times full, min fill was 0%.

-snap--------------------------------------------------------

Auch wenn ich eine Gr=F6=DFe f=FCr den fifo angebe, f=E4hrt er ihn st=E4n=
dig
runter bis auf Null. Schlimmer ist aber - glaub ich - das Problem beim
Schlie=DFen der CD.

Wer kann mir einen Tip geben? Was kann ich jetzt noch versuchen?

Gru=DF, Alex

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carlos Wexler)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: 11 Mar 1999 16:01:07 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
John Burton  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Yup! I find it interesting that the Department of Justice is after
>Microsoft for their "Monopoly", but the rest of the Federal Government
>(DoD & NASA in Particular) is busy *increasing* the monopoly by
>*requiring* electronic communications use an MS Office document format
>(Word, Excel, PowerPoint, etc), and of course MS Office only runs on
>Windows...;-)
>
>Go figure...;-)

Well, the NSF (National Science Foundation) actually requires documents to
be submitted in PDF (Portable Document Format, alias "Adobe Acrobat")
which is supported in essentially all common platforms.  

Way to go!!

                                        Carlos

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From: Johan Groth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Need a 16 meg Video card recommendation w/RedHat 5.2 support.
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:06:20 +0100

Frank wrote:
> 
> I got the V4400 to run under X (3.3.3.x) but low color modus
> if any1 know how to use 16-bit or higher, pse let me know...

You start X with startx -- -bpp 32. That will give you 24 bpp. This
works for with an STB V4400.

///Johan

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From: Jason McKnight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dual K6-III boards anywhere ?
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:19:27 -0500

They don't make them. Although the K6 family is cabable of multi-processing,
they are not the same as intel chips and no MB's are made to support SMP with
AMD. The K7 should correct this, but it will be much later in the year (if at
all) before they are available.

Walter Scott wrote:

> Hello Everybody!!
> The new K6-III looks like a neat alternative to the pentiums
> and I am looking for a dual K6-III system...
>
> However, I have not found any motherboard that would support
> TWO K6-III's.... does anyone have any experience in this regard?
>
> please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any suggestions...
>
> kind regards, Scotty
> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
> Walter Scott,
> Postdoctoral Research Fellow, University of Massachusetts
> address: 202 Dupont St., Philadelphia, PA 19127-1208
> Tel: +1 (215) 508 4110
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From: Jason McKnight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.misc
Subject: Re: 3c905b-TX with Mandrake 5.3 (or any Linux2.2)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:15:34 -0500

Try making sure that you have done a complete power down. I have the same card
and I have to actually turn off my UPS to get a clean boot. Windows does
something wierd to the card and I have to actually disconnect the power to get it
cleared out. Mine works fine !

eric wrote:

> Howdy,
>
> I recently tried Redhat Linux 5.0. It was an overall good experience,BUT i
> couldnt get my NIC to work. I was told because that it is in PnP mode, and
> since the PnP setting are controlled by my BIOS,,, this NIC didnt like that..
> so it didnt work... the Card works *perfect* with NT now, but not with Linux.
> I was wondering if the *New* Linux Kernel will support this card?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> eric
>
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From: Jason McKnight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: TNT help in RedHat
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:21:23 -0500

Download XFree86 3.3.3.1. It supports the TNT. Just use the generic Riva TNT
driver.

Scott L wrote:

> Just wondered if anyone could email me as to how to use the TNT chipset or
> more exactly what chipset ot pick in the installation - not worried about
> the 3d side just trying to get it running normally -
>
> thanks
>
> Scott Lewis
> Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer
> Microsoft Certified Professional + Internet
> A+ Certified Technician
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Evolution Technology Group
> http://www.etg.net


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From: Jason McKnight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: motherboard with on-board scsi
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:22:10 -0500

I have an ASUS P2B-DS. No problems. Linux loves it!

"J�rgen Persson" wrote:

> Any recommendations for a good motherboard with on-board scsi.
>
> Chipset: Intel BX
> Kernel: 2.2.3
> Dist.: Redhat 5.2
>
> I was thinking of AOpen AX6B+ but heard there was some problems.
>
> --
> J�rgen Persson
> Sysadmin, TLTH


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From: Christopher Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Ethernet vs. SCSI
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:52:45 -0800

I have a 386, 486, and a 586.  I was thinking of linking them with
ethernet but then I started thinking about SCSI.  They will be stacked
on top of each other, and I do plan on getting another system to add to
it later.  What would be the advantages and disadvatages of using SCSI
instead of Ethernet?  There are 2 extra bays in the 586 and the 386, 
the 486 has 1 extra bay, but I could replace the IDE cd rom with SCSI
(wich would be 2 bays).  Email me with your thoughts.

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From: John Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.fortran
Subject: Re: Speed..Speed..Speed
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 13:42:46 GMT

Kent Perrier wrote:
> 
> Michael Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I disagree. I routinely use a dual processor system for my work, and
> > find that having one processor essentially dedicated to the OS, and
> > the other running the app definitely helps. IMHO.
> 
> Correct.  but you have no control over which processor the new program will
> run on.  What if your fast, floating point program happens to run on the
> same physical cpu as you have netscape and emacs running on as well.  If you
> are surfing or reading news then your floating point program will not run as
> fast as it would on a dedicated cpu.  If your program creats threads then it
> will be more likely to use the additional cpus more efficiently.

This is all true, but if you're at all concerned about floating point
speed, etc, what are you doing running your big number crunching job on
the same machine as you're running your GUI & Netscape? anyway, having
one processor doing the O/S and the other doing apps is *still* better
than having just 1 processor doing *everything*. Also remember that
*alot* of the apps run these days depend upon INTEGER speed as much, if
not more so than FLOATING POINT speed... from the Benchmarks I've seen,
at a given CPU speed (Mhz) the Intel machines are better at integer ops
than the Alphas...

I not saying Ix86 machines are better or worse than the Alphas, they are
different and have a different target mix of applications they are good
at... 

John

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