Linux-Hardware Digest #636, Volume #9 Fri, 12 Mar 99 02:13:30 EST
Contents:
Re: Non-Winmodem problems! Help! ("Ger Donners")
Re: Linux on a Celeron? (Allen)
Re: MATROX mystique G200 problems ("J Forehand")
Re: Dual Processors (James Knowles)
Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux on a Celeron? (Greg Fruth)
Re: Ethernet vs. SCSI (Allen)
Re: HOW TO UNINSTALL LILO , and boot with a floppy disk ? (garv)
Re: modem config problems (Allen)
ISA NIC for Linux - Help me find one that works! ("Robert Schnitzer")
Re: MATROX mystique G200 problems (garv)
RED HAT x SLACKWARE ("wilson")
Supermicro S2DGE + Xeon problems ("T.D. Brace")
Re: SMC EZ ethernet card trouble ("Daniel Long")
Re: PROBLEM: Diamond FireGL1000 Pro ("Leo de Mul")
Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (wizard)
Re: A more complete and well-formed question. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [Q] Recommended supported scsi card (Michael Meissner)
Re: Diamond FireGL1000 Pro ("Leo de Mul")
Re: Linux and 486 (James Knowles)
Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (Christopher Browne)
install exabyte tape drive (Lupei Zhu)
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From: "Ger Donners" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Non-Winmodem problems! Help!
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 00:43:58 +0100
In case the modem is an internal, does linux see the extra serial port? My
guess would be the portsettings are incorrect. I know everyone says Linux
doesn't use BIOS but I always setup the onboard ports to COM1&3 or disable
them. Otherwise they will conflict with internal modems. If it is an
external modem set the ports in BIOS to something your mouse and internal
modem is NOT using. Never use com 2 and 4, and 1 and 3 together to avoid
problems. This may be not true by the books but it is in the real world.
Ger Donners
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
<7c915m$e08$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Greetings: I recently purchased a non-WinModem 3Com/USR 56K modem that I am
>trying to set up on my linux box. Currently, I have a 28.8K USR Sportster
>internal modem, and that has been working splendidly without problems.
>However, when I install and try to set up the 56K modem, diald (which I am
>using for dial-up) fails to initialize the modem. I have tried setting up
the
>modem on /dev/cua0, /dev/cua1, & /dev/cua2, but have not had any luck. It
>seems to me that the problem might be in the modem initialization string,
but
>I thought that these were all pretty much the same, especially for modems
>made by the same manufacturer? Please, can anyone help?? Thanks!!
>
>Justin
>(send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allen)
Subject: Re: Linux on a Celeron?
Date: 12 Mar 1999 04:33:29 GMT
On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 12:53:25 -0700, Jim Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've been looking for some information on this hardware mod - can you
>point me at a source for information?
>
>Jim (wanting MP without the price! <g>)
>
>BL wrote:
>> even two celerons are ok - if you do the hardware mod. I'm running dual cel.
>> (smp) and have been for a few weeks now. almost a 2x increase.
Jim I think your original Question got lost in the thread...
Check this out for Celeron modification info:
http://www.bxboards.com/
Allen
(email addy; user ID portion has a numeral one in place of word
onespoiler, and of course, delete the bogus secondary domain of nospam.)
PC/hardware Guru, and Linux Newbie--(how DO you exit vi?)
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From: "J Forehand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MATROX mystique G200 problems
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 18:53:43 -0000
I understand that the G200 IS supported in the latest XFree (3.3.3?)..
Most likely you have a earlier version.
au revoir
>How can i use my MATROX mystique G200 with Linux red hat 5.2 ?
>When i call "startx &", i got a message that explain that the card i use is
>unknown .
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From: James Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual Processors
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 04:44:49 +0000
I run two dual Pentium-II boxes with ASUS boards w/ built-in SCSI.
Very nice. (P2B-DS, P-II 400MHz, 128Mb RAM) I can't speak for the tomcat
as I know nothing about it, but I've learned over the years not to go
the cheap route. My time is too precious to spend it fighting hardware,
especially something with the potential for problems as SMP.
I would strongly recommend 2.2.x kernel. I've run on 2.0.xx, 2.1.129,
and 2.2.1 now. Big kudos to the kernel team for 2.2.x. The system
overhead is next to nothing, compared to the 2.0 series. My server just
flys. I can hardly load it down unless I'm purposefully trying.
J.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 21:10:21 GMT
On 08 Mar 1999 16:08:43 -0500, Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>> I look at it this way. 99% of the i386 arch all the way to the pent
>> II has a 1-2 gig memory limit. Dispite the 4 gig addressability of
>> the CPU, the chipset will only allow up to 1 gig. more than that is
>> ignored and is inaccessable because of the chipset. You want more
>> memory, use a computer that can handle more memory instead of
>> complaining about no support for something the hardware can't even do.
>
>Exactly, but in the case of the Xeon the hardware *can* address 64 GB
>or RAM.
>
>> to actually NEED that kind of memory, you must have some serious data
>> to crunch. our news server /w 64 meg ram runs our news server going
>> through 3 gigs a day and keeps up no prob...
>
>Yup. I'm not talking about 3 GB of netnews a day. That's about 120
>MB/hour, or 33 KB/sec, which is peanuts. I'm talking in the range of
>10-100 GB/hour (and up) using a high end RDBMS and other high end data
>warehousing tools. At this point, we're talking 3-30 MB/sec. 4-16
>Xeon's can do a pretty good job chewing through that kind of data, if
>they can keep their feeds busy. That means that memory thrashing is a
>no-no.
how about an entire movie? Titanic was done using linux on alphas.
It put out terabytes of data. linux was used to colormatch the
digital images and put together the fames that made up the movie. I
wouldn't consider that usual usage. They needed computing power, they
got alphas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg Fruth)
Subject: Re: Linux on a Celeron?
Date: 11 Mar 1999 23:46:38 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Charles D. Balazs, Jr."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Has anyone ever heard of or experienced problems running Linux on a
> Celeron machine? This would be a Celeron 366...
When I replaced my old Pentium 120 and MTI R526 motherboard with a slot-1
Celeron 366 and Abit BH6 motherboard, the only thing I had to do to Linux
was tell it my mouse was now on /dev/psaux instead of /dev/cua0, due to the
differing mouse connectors on the 2 motherboards. (I'm using RedHat 5.2.)
Linux then worked without a hitch.
In contrast, Windows95 required dozens of reboots and an endless stream of
profanity to get it to recognize the new configuration. Windows had trouble
recognizing my existing PCI cards on the new motherboard, despite the fact
that it already had the correct drivers for them. It also refused to
recognize my existing CD-ROM, which made it impossible to load the drivers
Win95 was asking for (needlessly, since it already had them available).
It also kept installing two instances of my video card in its device list.
--
Gregory Fruth ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Ethernet vs. SCSI
Date: 12 Mar 1999 05:17:17 GMT
Go with 10BaseT till you are ready to buy/build a real system--getting 10/100 or
100BaseTX ISA cards will much more expensive than upgrading your entire system
is worth, and will still be limited by the ISA bus, to a max transfer of about
25 Mbit/sec tops. And SCSI? If you have that much throw-away $$ then buy all
new systems? (I'm sure that you don't have a PCI 2.1 compliant 386 or 486
system! you will have problems with the newer PCI cards even if your 486 {or
386?} has PCI slots!!!)
On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:47:42 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jedi) wrote:
>On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:52:45 -0800, Christopher Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I have a 386, 486, and a 586. I was thinking of linking them with
>>ethernet but then I started thinking about SCSI. They will be stacked
>>on top of each other, and I do plan on getting another system to add to
>>it later. What would be the advantages and disadvatages of using SCSI
>>instead of Ethernet? There are 2 extra bays in the 586 and the 386,
>>the 486 has 1 extra bay, but I could replace the IDE cd rom with SCSI
>>(wich would be 2 bays). Email me with your thoughts.
>
> SCSI is rather more expensive. Plus, there are cable length
> restrictions to deal with, especially with SCSI3. Furthermore,
> the really dense connectors are a real PITA to deal with.
>
> For a 386 & 486, 10baseT or 100BaseT should be adequate.
>
> However, scsi would likely be a more interesting hack.
Allen
(email addy; user ID portion has a numeral one in place of word
onespoiler, and of course, delete the bogus secondary domain of nospam.)
PC/hardware Guru, and Linux Newbie--(how DO you exit vi?)
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From: garv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HOW TO UNINSTALL LILO , and boot with a floppy disk ?
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 21:22:03 -0800
Fr�d�ric Dumont wrote:
First go to /boot
I tried boot.b but boot.0300? works better; just try before you fly.
dd if=boot.0300 of=/dev/fdo bs=1440
Should make LILO disk. See that it works before next step.
Use DOS boot disk; type at a:\> fdisk /mbr to clear lilo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allen)
Subject: Re: modem config problems
Date: 12 Mar 1999 05:10:26 GMT
Possibly, your modem is good in a manner of speaking, but good for what? Is it
a PCI modem? There are only 2 I've even heard of that were "TRUE"
hardware-based modems, and the rest of the PCI modems were Linux incompatible
"win"modem act-alikes. check at this website to see if your modem is listed :
http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html
And next post, please include your hardware info? Model #s etc. serial ports
in use, how configured...
On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 13:44:38 -0600, Tim and Rachel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I recently installed Caldera's OpenLinux 1.3 on my Gateway Pentium Pro
>200. Everything seems to work but the modem. Despite my best efforts
>to decode the limited instructions for setting up KDE's "kppp" program,
>I still cannot talk to my modem. Continually get "modem busy" or "modem
>locked" error messages. The modem works fine w/win95 so I'm pretty sure
>my h/w is good. Any thoughts as what I should do?
>
Allen
(email addy; user ID portion has a numeral one in place of word
onespoiler, and of course, delete the bogus secondary domain of nospam.)
PC/hardware Guru, and Linux Newbie--(how DO you exit vi?)
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From: "Robert Schnitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ISA NIC for Linux - Help me find one that works!
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 23:48:43 -0500
Hi,
I've been trying to get an ISA NIC card working with Linux on my 486 (ISA).
Problem is that I can't even find anyone selling most of the ISA ones listed
as supported in the ethernet HOWTO.
I tried a 3c905b, but couldnt get it working because my windoze 98 disliked
it so much that it refused to even run the program disable the PNP.
So the question is: can you please suggest a specific ISA NIC card that has
a very high probability of actually working, i.e supported, and no pitfalls
like plug-and-pray, etc. And most important, a specific mail order merchant
that IS SELLING THE CARD. I'll even go with 10Mbs if that is all i can
find.
Thanks alot in advance,
Robert Schnitzer
please post and also mail me at:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: garv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MATROX mystique G200 problems
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 21:15:16 -0800
Fr�d�ric Dumont wrote:
> excuse me first for my bad english. ( i'm french)
>
> How can i use my MATROX mystique G200 with Linux red hat 5.2 ?
> When i call "startx &", i got a message that explain that the card i use is
> VIVE LINUX
I believe I have the same card, RH 5.2 and it works great?
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From: "wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RED HAT x SLACKWARE
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 21:04:17 -0500
Is it my impression or is 80% of the problems
wichever are they, do occur with Red Hat as
opossed to SlackWare ? Is that because we
have out there many more RH users than SlackWare
users or is it due to SlackWare being better ??
Anyone ?
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From: "T.D. Brace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.supermicro,comp.sys.intel,redhat.hardware.arch.intel,rochester.roadrunner.misc
Subject: Supermicro S2DGE + Xeon problems
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 21:04:40 -0500
I just put a machine together:
Supermicro S2DGE MB
Supermicro SC750A case
Xeon 400 512k
2 x 128MB Corsair GX PC100 SDRAMS
Diamond VIper V550
Adaptec 2940U2W
2 9g scsi drives
scsi cdrom
awe64
SMC ethernet (9332BDT)
It seems to run OK for about 3-4 minutes, then the video goes, and
the system is dead - the power is still on. Same thing happens in
both Linux and windows95. Right now, I can't get it to come back
on at all (boot and get video that is - the power does come on).
I thought maybe it was because I don't have the 4 retention fans installed,
but the cpu is not hot at all. I have 5 fans going in the system
including the one in the power supply (one behind the HD's, one blowing
directly onto the CPU from the side, two in the front of the case).
I have checked the jumpers several times, everything appears to be correct.
I am at a loss why this is happening, any and all advice would be greatly
appreciated.
Thank you.
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From: "Daniel Long" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: SMC EZ ethernet card trouble
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:54:49 +0800
I'm having the exact same problem. SMC 9425 card works fine under Windows 95
but RedHat 5.2 simply ignores it.
Anyone any suggestions?
Thanks
Daniel
Kurt Bussche wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Has anyone run intot a problem getting one of those inexpensize NE2000
>compatable ethernet cards by SMC?? I hav a PCI one which it deteced
>fine (5.2 Apollo Release) and I cant even get it to send a signal
>through the wire.
>Just to rule out one possibilty the card works fine under windows.
>
>If this is a incompatible card.... What kind of cards do you know of
>work well with the OS.
>
>Thanks
>Kurt
>
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From: "Leo de Mul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PROBLEM: Diamond FireGL1000 Pro
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 06:16:09 +0100
You can find them at XFree86 site, and the RedHat internet sites (X3DL.tgz =
3Dlabs server). What you need is the Permedia-2 driver (see information
websites). I am trying to install it myself for the Diamond FireGL 1000 Pro
AGP version via the rpm update option supplied with the Redhat5.2 system.
Linux Wannabe heeft geschreven in bericht <7c74nv$n1d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I am running an intel celeron 300MHz clocked at 450MHz (100x4.5)
>
>I am on a Princceton Ultra 72 monitor
>Diamond FireGL 1000 Pro video card
>
>I let it probe my card under custom it goes to a black screen and never
>returns. My monitor goes into stand-by mode. I can see this because my
power
>led goes from green to orange. I dont have any correct drivers for my video
>card. If anyone knows where to get some for Xwindows or Xserver please tell
>me where I can get them and how to download them so I can view them on disk
>if I download them under Windows 98. Thank you for reading this.
>
>Signed,
>The Linux Wanna-be User
>
>
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From: wizard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 21:11:17 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Burton wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > On 08 Mar 1999 16:08:43 -0500, Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > >
> > >> I look at it this way. 99% of the i386 arch all the way to the pent
> > >> II has a 1-2 gig memory limit. Dispite the 4 gig addressability of
> > >> the CPU, the chipset will only allow up to 1 gig. more than that is
> > >> ignored and is inaccessable because of the chipset. You want more
> > >> memory, use a computer that can handle more memory instead of
> > >> complaining about no support for something the hardware can't even do.
> > >
> > >Exactly, but in the case of the Xeon the hardware *can* address 64 GB
> > >or RAM.
> > >
> > >> to actually NEED that kind of memory, you must have some serious data
> > >> to crunch. our news server /w 64 meg ram runs our news server going
> > >> through 3 gigs a day and keeps up no prob...
> > >
> > >Yup. I'm not talking about 3 GB of netnews a day. That's about 120
> > >MB/hour, or 33 KB/sec, which is peanuts. I'm talking in the range of
> > >10-100 GB/hour (and up) using a high end RDBMS and other high end data
> > >warehousing tools. At this point, we're talking 3-30 MB/sec. 4-16
> > >Xeon's can do a pretty good job chewing through that kind of data, if
> > >they can keep their feeds busy. That means that memory thrashing is a
> > >no-no.
> >
> > how about an entire movie? Titanic was done using linux on alphas.
> > It put out terabytes of data. linux was used to colormatch the
> > digital images and put together the fames that made up the movie. I
> > wouldn't consider that usual usage. They needed computing power, they
> > got alphas
>
> They also had money! They were't *too* concerned between $4000 &
> $10,000...
> I agree..if you have the money, go for the Alpha... (the 21264 & 21364
> Alphas look pretty impressive...;-)
I really don't see a huge difference in pricing here. Systems wise Intel
and Alpha are in the same price range.
Dave
>
>
> John
>
> --
> John Burton, Ph.D.
> Senior Associate GATS, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11864 Canon Blvd - Suite 101
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) Newport News, VA 23606
> (757) 873-5920 (voice) (757) 873-5920 (fax)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: A more complete and well-formed question.
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 02:15:01 GMT
"Bryan J. Maloney" wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > of course, who cares what i think---probably the best solution would
> > to buy a second disk and see if he's willing to dedicate the time to
> > get linux to do what he wants.
>
> I want something that will do what I want without having to spend a lot of
> time to make it do those things.
>
> --
> To women contemplating marriage: The question you should ask is not
> "How much do I love him?" The real question is "How much can I
> tolerate him?"
> http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/bjm10/
If you bought a computer with linux preinstalled, you would not need to spend a
lot of time to setup things youw ant to do. Right now, Linux distributions have to
worry about installing peacefully with another operating system which causes
installation to be much more painful than it would be if Linux were the only OS
on the computer. The other real problem is hardware support/detection. Redhat's
installer features some great autodetection and hopefully it will get better when
6.0 comes out. The problem of ease of use is slowly dwindling away, you can get
KDE or gnome for a desktop as eaasy to use as MacOS or Win9x.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: [Q] Recommended supported scsi card
From: Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 11 Mar 1999 21:15:28 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Hong) writes:
> I am using NCR53C810 on my Asus TX97X motherboard and am using RedHat5.2.
>
> I want to buy Ultra Scsi card which will cost less than Adaptec since
> Adaptec looks quite expensive compared to others.
>
> Please advise me for resonable Ultra scsi card.
> Has anybody tried Ultra scsi card from Diamond which is called FirePort(?)?
People have mentioned Diamond Fireports working with 5.2 before (though I've
seen rumors to the effect that Diamond was getting out of the SCSI business).
I myself use TekRam 390U (ultra-narrow) and TekRam 390F (ultra-wide)
controllers, which use the same chipset as the Diamond card. Note, you don't
want the TekRam 390 (without a suffix), as that is an AMD based card, which
does not support Ultra. The last I checked, the TekRam's were around $80. You
want to select the NCR53C8XX driver in the kernel (not the NCR53C7XX,8XX driver
that comes before it in the config questions). Note, the 2.2.x kernels are
more sensitive to termination issues than 2.0.x, so be sure to terminate your
scsi chain correctly (with active termination, don't rely on the device
supplying reasonable termination).
--
Michael Meissner, Cygnus Solutions
PO Box 98, Ayer Massachusetts, USA 01432-0098
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Leo de Mul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Diamond FireGL1000 Pro
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 06:18:38 +0100
You can find them at XFree86 site, and the RedHat internet sites (X3DL.tgz =
3Dlabs server). What you need is the Permedia-2 driver (see information
websites). I am trying to install it myself for the Diamond FireGL 1000 Pro
AGP version via the rpm update option supplied with the Redhat5.2 system.
Leo.
Hon Yee heeft geschreven in bericht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Please advise on which XFree86-server package to use if I have the
>Diamond FireGL 1000 Pro graphics adaptor.
>
>Thank you
>
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From: James Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and 486
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 06:11:41 +0000
TN wrote:
> Will Linux work well on a 486? I've found a sale on IBM 486sx33/8mb/270hd
> for $79.
> Is this an OK machine for me to try Linux out on or should I get the
> P75/16m/850 for $199?
Hmmm.... I ran 0.99(?) kernel Linux on a 386DX-40/16Mb/120Mb HD quite
well, including X. However, the extra speed would be good. I ran 1.2.xx
on a P-60/40Mb/350HD very nicely, too. Actually I developed quite a bit
of software on it.
The eternal question "what do you want to do with it" keeps popping up.
With 8MB RAM I'd not try running X windows. (I tried on the old 386/40
and it stunk until I upped it to 16MB). 850MB HD will keep you running
for quite some time. I found 350MB tight for what I was doing.
Some food for thought,
James
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 02:43:59 GMT
On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 22:49:49 GMT, John Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> how about an entire movie? Titanic was done using linux on alphas.
>> It put out terabytes of data. linux was used to colormatch the
>> digital images and put together the fames that made up the movie. I
>> wouldn't consider that usual usage. They needed computing power, they
>> got alphas
>
>They also had money! They were't *too* concerned between $4000 &
>$10,000...
>I agree..if you have the money, go for the Alpha... (the 21264 & 21364
>Alphas look pretty impressive...;-)
It's not so much that they were price-insensitive; it's also that they
were *space*-sensitive.
Adding a couple of extra boxes to make up for IA-32 CPUs not being as
fast may not be a big deal when the task is small. Fitting an extra
system in my apartment might be moderately annoying, but wouldn't cost
much.
But when you start building a big "rendering farm," additional costs
start needing to be considered:
- The cost of the "real estate" required to house the boxes,
- The cost of getting those boxes dropped into place, plugged in, and
running.
Buying Intel-based boxes might *not* be more economical if you have to
spend an extra million dollars on the land and building to house them...
--
Wow! Windows now can do everything using shared library DLLs, just
like Multics did back in the 1960s! Maybe someday they'll discover
separate processes and pipes, which came out in the 1970s!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/alpha.html>
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From: Lupei Zhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.solaris,alt.salarix.x86,comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: install exabyte tape drive
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 22:18:23 -0800
Hi,
just bought an EXB-8200 8mm tape drive from ebay. looks like an
internal tape drive for me, no power cable or
scsi cable. manual says it uses standard DC supply 5/12v. My concern is
that if I install it inside my pentium box, will
the fan is power enough to cool this thing? it requirs 5-40C operating
temperature (41-104F) and needs air flow
constantly. Does any one have a similar drive installed in a PC.
thanks a lot
Lupei
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