Linux-Hardware Digest #101, Volume #9 Mon, 4 Jan 99 06:13:30 EST
Contents:
Re: Building a Linux box for home use. (Richard Ponton)
This ongoing flame-fest (Moriarty)
Re: Matrox G200, Xfree 3.3.3 Partial Solution, Need Help... (Richard Ponton)
Re: AMD K62-3d and 2.0.36
Re: linux viruses (Henry Wong)
Re: Sound problem - CD's cannot be heard playing (Brugger Rolf)
PCMCIA drivers ("Gabriele Buratti")
Trouble of date on a Siemens Primergy 150 (Marc Dilasser)
Re: 19 inch monitor recommendations sought ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: MCA Linux (Linux for PS/2 Microchannel) (Mike Werner)
Re: Win 98 PCMCIA -> Linux no more PCMCIA... (Manuel Munier)
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From: Richard Ponton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Building a Linux box for home use.
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 00:44:29 -0800
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Hmmm. Didn't know about that. Anyhow, whatever you do, don't get any modem
that says HP or HSP in it's name. They are WinModems and a) only work in
Windows, and b) just plain suck since the only reason they would be a WinModem
in the first place is to be cheap.
Rod Roark wrote:
> JRED45 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I am planning to build a Linux box that will be running Redhat 5.2 for home
> >use. I don't want to buy computer hardware( video cards,modem etcc..) that
> >wouldn't work for the Redhat 5.2 (incompatible) Does anybody has a Hardware
> >list that has been proven to work on Linux? specially those modems. Thanx
>
> Get an external modem: easier to troubleshoot, less line noise, no
> compatibility hassles. Supra seems to be mentioned a lot as being
> a good value.
>
> -- Rod
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Sunset Systems Preconfigured Linux Computers
> http://www.sunsetsystems.com/ Starting at $499
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From: Moriarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: This ongoing flame-fest
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 02:22:42 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hey all...
I personally like to read this and other Linux related newsgroups for the
same reasons many of your others do: To learn from one another and help one
another, if we are able of course... Unfortunatly, there is now a flame-fest
going on in this thread, and personally, I wish it would stop.
I am not attempting to flame anyone on either the majority users or DG's
side... I am just trying to clear the air... I mean, for many of us, USENET
is more than just newgroups... USENET is a way of life... And, like in the
real world, it is usually better for us to get along and become productive,
than to always be angry and everything get destroyed in a heartbeat...
To DG: I read your first post (the initial post that started this) that
requested help from the members of these groups. I was going to respond to
you, but I first (like usual) read the other people responses to your
responses and, to be honest with you, after re-reading all the posts of this
thread over and over again, I fail to understand why you are so upset with
us. In my opinion (and I'm sure yours and others will have differing ones), I
think many other people at first tried to help you find the easiest, least
time-consuming way to solve your original problem. To be honest with you, I
am all for the idea that one can log on to the net at any time and download
either patches, updates, or the whole smoe of the Linux OS for free. The fact
that it was originally made available by Mr. Torvaldes in the source code
format for free under the GPL is what has enable others and myself to legally
enhance and modify these sources and re-distribute them back on the net so
that others, in whatever way they can, can benefit from the total sum of our
collective knowledge. Now, Mr. DG, I have collaborated with Microsoft before
on several projects and beta testing surveys, and I personally can tell you
the frustration I felt when I needed to re-format my Windows partitions and
do a complete re-install because of some renegade thread in a program which
screwed it all up. I don't know about you, but if the only way you could
restore Windows was to make a disk which has just the proper software, tools,
and drivers on it to just connect to your ISP, and then make the FTP
connection each and every time the system dies, I think you would get rather
tired of repeating this task over and over again... I mean, a good complete
software on Linux, in my opinion is over 500+ MB, and the basic Windows 98
stuff is around what, 240 MB or so? And then, after you have spent the time
required to download the software, then have to spend the time waiting to
install it, you may be looking at several hours (based on the transfer
figures you gave us at 500 MB/2 hours), and having a CD copy, in my humble
opinion, would be a heckuva lot easier to keep on hand then to have to keep
repeatedly downloading over and over again. When the earlier posters
suggested that you make a purchase of one of the various CD-ROMS available,
they were not trying to insult your intelligence, or take away your rights as
an Internet user - they (and I) were just speaking from the experience that
years of tinkering and hassles of trying new things out has taught us. I
believe one gentleman suggested you go to the Cheapbytes website
(http://www.cheapbytes.com) and purchase the Linux distrubution for $1.99
(w/Total shipping charges it comes to around $8.50 or so in US Dollars)...
I honestly believe that these people were not trying to pick on you or start
a fight or deny you anything which you feel you are entitled to. I believe
that they were under the impression from your posts that you had some past
familarity with Linux (RedHat Distributions in particular) and were ready to
make the switch from Windows 9x as your primary OS to Linux. (I myself got
that same impression after reading your initial posts based on how you were
wanting to set up your hardware per your descriptions)... The reason why they
told you to buy the premade CD-ROM was to save you both time and money - I
mean, didn't you yourself say that you didn't want to shell out the cash to
get a CD-ROM burner? No offense to you, but in my opinion, $1.99 + shipping
is *MUCH* *MUCH* cheaper than several hundred dollars for a *good*
CD-ROM burner... I think maybe you mistook these other peoples posts as being
critical of you, when in fact (in my opinion) they were actually trying to
save you some grief... Now, be honest with us here - when you first got to
the point in your self-taught education, how many times did you get to the
point where a re-install of Windows 9x was necessary? Several I bet. Now, it
is true, both of my opinion and of several millions of Linux users (and
Microsoft also, according to their in-house memos) that Linux is far more
stable an environment (especially for development and Net applications) than
Windows 9x / NT, but we also realize that nothing is ever perfect and that
there is always the possibility of a crash or a major bug popping up where a
re-install of all systems maybe necessary. Now do you see why having a backup
CD-ROM would be desireable? I mean, all your drives are wiped: So, you would
have to 1. Set up Windwos 9x all over again. 2. Install the Internet FTP
software 3. Configure the Net stuff 4. Dial-up/Connect and FTP all those
hundreds of MB all over again... 5. Reboot and setup Linux... 6. Configure
everything that you lost in the crash... 7. Fix every little minor detail you
may have missed... And so on and so on... With a CD-ROM, you could take a
good two hours off of this process... Maybe you don't run a website (or maybe
you do), but I know that there are many on USENET who also double as
webmasters and such, and if the servers are down, then they are losing
money... Are you with me so far?
Now, personally, I have no opinion on how you get your money or what you
choose to do with it. if it is your money and you earned it, then you have
ever right to do with it as you see fit. Same with what you choose to do with
your hardware and/or software you already own or already buy... If you were
to decide to go out and buy a K7-500 Mhz CPU in 6 months or so, I would say
more power to you, and I would support you in any way possible (as well as be
secertly envious :) The type of people who run OSes like Linux are the type
of people who like to tinker, problem-solvers and developers who like to get
in and get their hands-dirty with new software and hardware, to push the
technology envelope to the extreme (or as extreme as they can get)... In my
opinion, if I am starting out on something brand new, and there is someone
who obviously is more knowledgeable about it than me on it, I am most
*defintely* going to try and learn from them or ask them their advise... I
don't have to agree with it or do what they say... Nothing says that you are
obligated to what the members of this group suggest... (It is your money,
your hardware, and your software, and your time, after all) We will not be
offended in any way as long as you respect our rights to our opinions...
Hopefully, most of the time we are right, or can point you in the direction
to a place (A website, for example) where you can find it on your own... But,
like all things in life, sometimes we are wrong... But remember, the
USENET is for anyone who has any ideas at all to come and participate and
share what both the newer people are looking for, as well as gain experience
from the people who have more knowledge and familarity... But remember, at
any time you are free to stop logging into your NNTP server... You don't have
to post... There will always be people who will disagree on anything with
you, no matter what the subject... The fact that we are able to form
different opinions independently from anyone else is what probably seperates
humankind from the lesser species on the planet... You know what I mean? You
came on this group posting a problem, and we responded (or at least some of
us did) - I'm not quite sure why you became so upset... I am at a lost as to
why this thread even got started and continued...
Maybe you are a natural-born troublemaker... These people do exist.
But, since I know nothing about you, and I have never met you or encountered
you in my personal life to the best of my knowledge, I am going to treat you
with the same respect and dignity that I would give any person either on here
or in the real world... But, once you abuse that trust that people given you,
then it is usually *very* difficult, if not impossible, to regain what was
lost, and build again from there...
All I ask that before you launch your newsreader and flame me to the ends of
the Earth for this post, is that you try to see my side of it - our side
maybe? - and realize that nobody was trying to tell you what to do... On the
net, nobody knows anything about anybody else until you yourself tell us, and
there are lots of ways that people can tell traits in other people... Please
also realize that many of the people on the USENET have been *very* longterm
Internet users (I myself have been online for over fifteen years now) and
while we may be set in our weird little ways, on most technical topics, we do
know what we are talking about... Take it from those who know, and maybe you
will save time, money, resources, and maybe even more importantly, make some
new friends... Of course, and I am only going to say it once, you screw
around with the wrong people, and it is quite possible that you will not be
logging on for soem time without *quite* a bit of effort...
DO YOU UNDERSTAND? Thank you. :)
I hope that DG and anyone else who reads this message will send me some
feedback on this, whether good or bad... I welcome all opinions - good, bad,
indifferent, or completely new fresh ones... :)
Thank you for your time and for your attentive patience... Take care, and
have a good day...
Moriarty
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From: Richard Ponton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Matrox G200, Xfree 3.3.3 Partial Solution, Need Help...
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 00:48:41 -0800
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Since I can't see your old message, I don't know what RedHat you have, but I have
5.1. When installing 3.3.3 I just followed the directions, but for the full
install, not the upgrade (the upgrade would probably work). Afterwords, I used the
XF86Setup that came with 3.3.3 not Redhat's setup program.
It wouldn't work, however, until I modified my /etc/ld.conf to search the X
directories instead of the libc5 directories. I got an error message about
Undefined Symbol: _Xsetlocale.
Craig Goodrich wrote:
> > 1) The Xconfigurator utility now core dumps on me. Has anyone else seen this
> > aberrent behaviour and managed to resolve it? xf86config works just fine?
>
> Check the date on Xconfigurator; it may be the one from 3.3.2 and the
> new
> X libs confuse it. xf86config is, I think, part of the X distribution,
> so
> it would be updated at the same time X is.
>
> > 2) I notice that in 24 and 32 bit depths my colors are a bit off? For example
> > the icons in netscape are an awfull sort of grey? Again, has anyone else
> > noticed this? I have 8MB of ram on my G200, do I need to upgrade to 16MB or
> > higher?
>
> This also happens on my 4M ViRGE/VX. It may be a bug in either Netscape
> or
> in the SVGA server. I just use 16 bpp....
>
> > 3) Now when I do a rpm -qa | grep -i xfree, I see both the 3.3.2 packages and
> > the 3.3.3 packages? Can I safely remove the 3.3.2 packages or do I need to
> > uninstall everything for Xfree and install just the 3.3.3 stuff?
>
> DO NOT TRY TO REMOVE 3.3.2! That'll blow away the corresponding 3.3.3
> files!
>
> Moral: next time use the UPDATE switch on RPM, rpm -Uvh
> xfwhatever....rpm
>
> -i with --force is nearly always a mistake, and will have this result.
> If
> you want to clean it up, uninstall both and reinstall 3.3.3 OR (and you
> may
> as well try this if you have nothing to lose) reinstall 3.3.3 WITH THE
> UPDATE
> SWITCH this time. This might straighten everything out (or, of course,
> it
> might not...).
>
> > 4) I notice in the /etc/X11/XF86Config file created for me there are
> > references to an Accelerated Server? Does anyone know what this is? Is it
> > worth looking into? Does the G200 support it?
>
> The "accel" servers include XF86_S3, -_Mach64, -_W32 and so on. There's
> a general long-term move to roll everything into the -_SVGA server,
> which
> is where the new G200 support is. In 3.3.3, for example, XF86_S3V is no
> longer the recommended server for ViRGE, although it's still provided;
> XFree recommends using the SVGA server which contains ViRGE (and Matrox)
> acceleration. There's no separate "accel" server for G100/G200, but
> don't fret: SVGA drives the card as fast as anything could (which, I
> understand, is pretty damn fast; I envy you).
>
> You might want to take a look at the XF 3.3.3 release notes and other
> documentation at http://www.xfree86.org/3.3.3 . Also, for your
> amusement
> and edification, I have an SVGA server at the URL below which supports
> True Type fonts, and I'd appreciate someone testing it on a new Matrox
> to see if it works (hint, hint).
>
> Best wishes for the New Year,
>
> Craig
>
> --
> Craig Goodrich
> Rural Village Systems
> somewhere in the woods near Huntsville, Alabama
>
> Politics for the Thinking Redneck -- http://airnet.net/craig/g4c
> Linux miscellany -- http://airnet.net/craig/linux
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: AMD K62-3d and 2.0.36
Date: 4 Jan 1999 07:14:02 GMT
In article <7683af$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Byron A Jeff)
writes:
> Also if you're into overclocking it's very likely that the K6-2 350 will
> overclock to either 380 Mhz (at 95 FSB * 4) or 392 (112 FSB * 3.5) giving
> excellent performance for the $120 or so you'll pay for the chip.
What are the jumper settings for these cache speeds?
> BTW I advise the 350 simply because it's the only one other than the 400
> designed for the 100 Mhz FSB. The 333 and 380 expect 95 Mhz. The 366 expects
> 66 Mhz (yuck).
I've been clocking my K6-2 333 @ 100MHz FSB for a while now; no problems with
memory @ 66MHz with both DIMM slots occupied. I would occasionally have failures
to boot and once had the thing hang during bootup @ the random number generation
step, but that was back when I had one DIMM in the /second/ DIMM slot, with no
other memory anywhere else. I haven't had any problems since I got a second DIMM.
--
"Tender is the FUR
dying as you BURN..."
-Rob Zombie
"...an explosion in a chlorine factory."
-Buster Wilde, Weerwolf
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From: Henry Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux viruses
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 04:32:26 -0500
This is good advice, but still not foolproof.
As for those who say that Linux is not susceptible or that you don't need
to worry about viruses, that's a very dangerous attitude.
LINUX is basically a variant of UNIX. UNIX has had its share of attacks in
the past and is likely to continue to be attacked, although there is now an
unnamed bigger and more attractive target now.
The attacks usually exploit some flaw in the implementation of the OS or
some program. The attacks often attempt to become root and replace things
like the shell or some other program with modified or trojan horse programs.
With shared libraries, I would imagine that that would be a good target.
Propagation is often over the network from one compromised machine to attack
another. However this doesn't preclude attacks over tapes and disks.
The bottom line is to not be running programs of unknown origin or from
unsafe sources (sort of like unsafe sex). Secure your network interfaces
to just those services that are necessary for what you want to do and
occasionally check the CERT web site for known security loopholes.
http://www.cert.org/
Be especially careful of what you run as root. Running unknown programs as
root opens your system up without the hacker having to figure out how to
become root.
I've never looked into virus software for either LINUX or UNIX.
Hope that this helps.
Henry
rens wrote:
>
> x wrote:
> >
> > is it possible to get a virus protector for linux?
>
> I would really not know.
>
> If you have software you do not trust, test it as a normal user, instead
> of
> root.
>
> in that way, you will never crap your system
>
> rens.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brugger Rolf)
Subject: Re: Sound problem - CD's cannot be heard playing
Date: 4 Jan 99 10:51:26 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> The audio from the CD player cannot be heard. I dont think that its a
> hardware
> problem because in MeSsy Widows it works fine.
>
> I'm using slackware 3.5 (kernel 2.0.34) and have a CMI8330 Audio Adapter
> which
> claimes to be soundblaster compatible.
>
> Does anybody know of problems with the CMI8330 audio adapter not beeing
> fully soundblaster compatible????????????
[...]
> I also tried to config/initialize the card using isapnptools but that
> made no
> change. So at this point I'm completely lost ............ What more can
> I do?
You need a program called "fixcmi" which turns on CD-line-in (the default
is off in the cmi8330). The program has been posted to this newsgroup some
weeks ago. If you can't find it, mail me and I'll look for it in my archive.
Rolf
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From: "Gabriele Buratti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PCMCIA drivers
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:04:18 +0100
Hi,
Does anyone made a Compaq Microcom 550 (56k mod + 10/100 pcmcia card) work
on RedHat 5.2 ?
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Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 11:17:18 +0100
From: Marc Dilasser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Trouble of date on a Siemens Primergy 150
Hardware : SIEMENS Primergy 150, 3 SCSI disks,1 DAT Tape.
OS : Linux SuSE 5.3 Fr
The date and hour grow very slowly (2H30 for 14 days).
Try to invalidate APM in the Bios, it's the same.
The date and hour seems to grow normaly when working on the machine.
When the machine is rebooted, the date and hour are correct, the Bios
timer seems OK.
Any help will be greatly appreciated
Marc
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 19 inch monitor recommendations sought
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 08:33:22 GMT
> > I would like to be able to run at 1600x1200, but I'm not sure how well
> > suited 19 inch monitors are for this type of activity.
I've got a ViewSonic G790 ($500-510 at the computer show today! cheaper
on the net?...)
I bought it about 1/2 yr ago for $720.
(to replace a dead monitor)
I like the G790, its a vy good quality/price combination.
Probably one of the better values today.
I don't regret buying it. (only the fact that it is cheaper $ now
:( I may even buy another...
I'm running it from a ati xpert 98 (8mb) card - at 1280x1024.
no noticeable moire to me. (becareful with short necked monitors,
such as the PS790, KDS 19sn - saw 2 KDS 19sn monitors - with the
settings at 2 different vendors at the computer show, one had
noticeable moire, ... the other didn't - I've yet to see a ps790
display active - but others have mentioned in news groups that
it also can have noticeable moire trouble...)
I'm in the market for another 19" - and am thinking about getting
a 'top line' model:
a iiyama vision master pro 450 - BUT it cost $$.
(there ARE 2 models for the pro 450, A901HT and A901GT! - I
have NOT been able to get a solid answer re the differences! :-(
[DOES anyone know the differences? its about $70 diff at compusa.com]
darn! shopping for a great deal in terms of a monitor is HARD WORK!!
looks like the 19" monitors are getting hot! cheapest one I saw was $360!
While the vm pro 450 is spec'd for higher bandwidth, I think
1280x1024 is the best maximum res for a 19" monitor.
Thus I am seriously considering another viewsonic G790.
(the vs graphics line is supposed to be their 'middle' line.)
OH, BTW - I had trouble with the display with a diamond stealth II 220 (4MB)
card... it couldn't push 1024x768 or 1280x1024 well enough on
this monitor :-(
so - I upgraded to a ati xpert 98 (8mb) -> which are a great deal
right now with a $20 rebate! - i saw the retail box version at the
show for $60! I'm thinking about using it on a new linux system.
BTW 2 - if anyone's looking for a good 17" monitor, I picked up a
hyundai deluxscan 17b+ for $200 2 months ago (computer show)
- its a vy NICE deal - better than those $200 monitors on
special at fry's and compusa. (now, hopefully it will last
and not prove me wrong %^)
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From: Mike Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: MCA Linux (Linux for PS/2 Microchannel)
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 02:36:27 -0500
Take a look at
http://www.dgmicro.com/mca/
This appears to be what you are seeking. And it looks like they are
using Slack to do their development, so the answer to that question is
also yes.
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From: Manuel Munier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Win 98 PCMCIA -> Linux no more PCMCIA...
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 10:41:24 +0100
No problem for me with my ethernet PCMCIA card. I can
"switch" between Win98 and Linux without problem. So
it sounds like a PCMCIA chipset problem. Mine is a
Texas Instrument (Sager laptop). A solution could be
to upgrade your pcmcia package under Linux. I use the
last version (3.0.6 if I'm right).
Regards,
Manuel
--
Geoffroy Magnan a �crit:
>
> Using both Win 98 and Linux (RedHat 5.2), we have a problem with our
> PCMCIA ports :
>
> we use them under windows and they work fine... the device used to
> recognize the cards take control of both port. But this control doesn't
> stop when we reboot and launch Linux : result : we are unable to use
> PCMCIA sockets and the Ethernet card within.
>
> We found a solution : hard reboot, but we are looking for another
> solution...
>
> If anyone has an idea... let us know !
> Thanks
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