Linux-Hardware Digest #636, Volume #10 Wed, 30 Jun 99 20:13:34 EDT
Contents:
Re: ADSL versus Cable modem. (bryan)
Re: Best PCI Soundcard? (Tabman)
Re: SoundCard ("S3/\\\\\\T3X")
Re: Mouse Problems in X Windows ("S3/\\\\\\T3X")
Re: FWD: Intel could nip dual-Celeron move in bud ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Maestro 2 Soundcard under Linux (Stuart Moffatt)
Heres one manufacturer we dont need (Kona Stan)
Re: FWD- Hardware site petitions Intel over SMP Celerons (Alex Lam)
Re: UDMA-4, U/66 performance (Greg Bartels)
Re: newbie: About LPR (Matt Willis)
Re: Best PCI Soundcard? (Mike Frisch)
Re: SGI Visual Workstation 540 and Qlogic 1080.... (Phil LoCascio)
Re: S3 TRIO 3D (Adam Constabaris)
SANE ("wrexy")
can't load sb module into kernel (Superfueld Freaksicle)
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From: bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ADSL versus Cable modem.
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 03:33:25 GMT
Mike & Lisa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Johan Kullstam wrote:
: >
: > Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: >
: > > Charles Sullivan wrote:
: > > >
: > > > An article in our local newspaper announced that the phone company (Bell
: > > > South)
: > > > had begun offering ADSL service and that the cable company (Time Warner)
: > > > would be offering Cable modem service within the next few months. The
: > > > article
: > > > claimed that download speeds would be about the same but uploads via Cable
: > > > modem would be somewhat faster. In both cases the company would come and
: > > > install the required modem.
: > > >
: --snip--
: From what I've read in a few trade magazines....Wireless Review,
: Communications Design,
: RCR, etc, it seems that ADSL will be faster than the cablemodems plus as
: more people
: get on their cablemodems your speed will decrease, unlike on ADSL. I
: think I saw the
: same thing in a review in PC Computing also :)
its true - more people on the same wire without a smart QoS algorithm
means more bottleneck. classic example of shared vs. switched. dsl
is switched. and nice ;-)
--
Bryan [at] Grateful.Net
http://www.Grateful.Net
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tabman)
Subject: Re: Best PCI Soundcard?
Date: 30 Jun 1999 22:16:37 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:07:46 -0400, Michael Wise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Bryan wrote:
>>
>> I'm looking into getting a new sound card and want one that is good and
>> will work with Linux and Win98, but I want it to work with the drivers
>> that are already supplied with linux, not commercial drivers. Could you
>> all please post your sound cards that worked with no problems under
>> linux? Thanks, Bryan
>
>I'm partial to the Ensoniq AudioPCI cards. You can get them for $25-$30.
>They have a direct driver in the kernel, so there is no need to the Open
>Sound System with it. (thank god)
Do the Ensoniq AudioPCI cards come with a driver or utility that will
allow it to work with DOS games in MSDOS 6.0 ?
That's the snag I've run into with my on-board ESS Solo1-based audio.
:-(
'later...
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| "If you make people think they are
Tabman You may answer in | thinking, they will love you; if you
english, french, german | make them think, they will hate you."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - Don Marquis
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From: "S3/\\\\\\T3X" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: SoundCard
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 01:01:52 +0200
HellNo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7ldkad$khq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have an SB16 and I'm happy!
> Avoid the SB Live... it needs *3* IRQ's!
>
> I thought a SB AWE32 would be good. I know Linux supports it and W9x
> does too. Don't know about the others!
>
> Hope this helped.
> Ed.
>
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Anthony Lacey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Im thinking of adding a soundcard to my system and wondered what
> people
> > thought was the best choice. Im running Linux (2.2.5) and 98 (just
> for
> > games). I want some decent sound but Im not sure if I need to feel
> > immersed in some 3D experience (I just dont believe that a set of �50
> > speakers can do that). Basically I will be playing games in 98,
> > listening to CDs and maybe some web audio under both and I may record
> > some of my vinyl onto cd in the furture. From my local dealer the
> > choices seem to be:
> >
> > soundblaster 64 PCI - �17
> > soundblaster AWE64 ISA - �27
> > soundblaster 128 PCI - �30
> > soundblaster live value - �43
> >
> > all oem.
> >
> > So what do people think is a good choice? I dont want too much hassle
> > in setup and want the card to work as well as can be expected in both
> > linux & 98. Im only going to spend about nother �30 on speakers too.
> >
> > Any advice gratefully recieved.
> >
> > --
> > Dr. Tony Lacey - Imaging Science & Bio-medical Engineering, University
> > of
> > Manchester Stopford Building, Oxford Rd., Manchester. UK. M13 9PT
> > [+44 (0)161 275 5570] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://www.niac.man.ac.uk/~ajl/
> >
snip
First off: kiss ur retailer > that's dirt cheap for all cards , compared to
here.
Second. The setup of soundcards in Linux will remain an utter bitch in the
near future. Just when i thought hacking my pnpisa.conf was enough and then
let the kernel have a go at it..........NOT! Another option would be to buy
drivers from OSS........but that'll cost good money. 98 'll support all
these cards no problem though. I'd say go for PCI. The AWE64 is too old and
too hissy anyway. The 64 PCI should be fine. (just check if there already is
linux-support for it)
hope this helps, semtex
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From: "S3/\\\\\\T3X" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mouse Problems in X Windows
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 01:09:56 +0200
I had the mouse-blues on RH4.2 and suse 6.1 as well. It turned out that my
BIOS settings for comports were set to automatic. After I changed these to
the regular default values , the mouse worked. That's 6 messages in
newsgroups. Hundreds of messages read on ng's, a pile of howto's, a stack of
webpages and a month of grinding teeth action............
I'm gettin ready to install my AWE32, zipdrive (funny worked in ol'redhat,
refuses on brand new suse), and epson stylus color 600 (let alone my pport
flatbed scanner)............just before my girlfriend kills me.
linux we love you
grtz, semtex
Charles Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7lao10$8lt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> What version of Linux are you using? With RH5.2 I had to download the
> 'imwheel' program with it's patch to gpm to get satisfactory performance
> with my Microsoft Intellimouse PS/2 (with wheel). However the
deficiencies
> appear to have been resolved in RH6.0, although 'imwheel' is still
required
> to have the mouse wheel function in X applications.
>
> My RH5.2 problem was not however in X, but that the mouse didn't work at
> all after I exited X and went back to the console.
>
> ZzzZZz wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >Every time I start up X Windows, it doesn't respond. I've looked into
some
> >FAQs and found out that because I have a Microsoft Wheel Mouse (2 button
> >mouse with the scrolling wheel in the middle) I need to type the
following
> >before starting X Windows:
> >
> >mouseconfig --kickstart --device cua0
> >
> >However, when I type that, X Windows still doesn't respond. Am I supposed
> to
> >install or configure my mouse a certain way?
> >
> >Thanks in advance.
> >
> >-Z
> >
> >
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: FWD: Intel could nip dual-Celeron move in bud
Date: 30 Jun 1999 23:10:26 GMT
In comp.os.linux.hardware Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: If you want an inexpensive dual (SMP) Celeron system. Do it now.
Yep, though I suppose all the 300As are safe because Intel had
stopped making them a long long time ago. Anyway, with the BP6
mobo coming out, this should be the perfect time for building
Celeron SMP systems. Also please take a look at the Celeron SMP
petition here:
http://www.cpureview.com/smp_petition.html
-- Chuan-kai Lin
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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 15:55:51 -0700
From: Stuart Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux
Subject: Maestro 2 Soundcard under Linux
Has anyone had any luck using a Maestro soundcard under Linux ? I
recently installed Red Hat 6.0 onto my laptop (a Transmonde Vibrant LS),
and have been unable to get the sound going. The impression I got from
references on the Web was that this card wouldn't work under Linux,
although my manufacturer implied that their hardware was all
Linux-compatible when I bought the machine -- and in every other case it
was. For the most part, Linux runs perfectly on my machine (No more
constant crashes), but sound support still eludes me. I know that the
hardware itself is fine, since it still works under Win98. The card is
an ESS Technologies Maestro-2� PCI Audio Accelerator.
Also, is it possible to use a Zip250 under Linux with a PCMCIA SCSI
adapter ? This is the one other nagging problem I've had, with my
Zipdrive still working under Windows but not Linux. I'm willing to
tweak it a bit, if I just know where to start. The PCMCIA itself is
working, and supports my modem perfectly, but my system won't recognize
any SCSI devices on the machine.
Thanks for any help you can give me,
- Stuart ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kona Stan)
Subject: Heres one manufacturer we dont need
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:30:25 GMT
Heres the series of e-mails between myself and
Memorex
Unless you start supporting Linux I will
not purchase or recommend anyone purchase
your products.
It makes no sense for me to purchase your
product until you do have support for Linux.
This e-mail will be posted to numerous Linus newsgroups
throught out the net.
Aloha
Stan
At 03:45 PM 6/30/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Hello from Memorex:
>��� At this time we do not support Linux and have no drivers for it.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Stan Tomyl [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 12:02 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: tech support
>
>
>[This message was sent through the www-email gateway.]
>
>
>phone = 808-325-1919
>product = crw-1622
>problem = My Linux system will not detect this device
>processor = Pentium/586/K5/K6/686
>os = Other
>
>------------------------------------------------------------
>Server protocol: HTTP/1.0
>Remote host: s44.hai1.hialoha.net
>Remote IP address: 206.127.238.110
>
>
>Heres the series of e-mails between myself and
Memorex
Unless you start supporting Linux I will
not purchase or recommend anyone purchase
your products.
It makes no sense for me to purchase your
product until you do have support for Linux.
This e-mail will be posted to numerous Linus newsgroups
throught out the net.
Aloha
Stan
At 03:45 PM 6/30/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Hello from Memorex:
>��� At this time we do not support Linux and have no drivers for it.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Stan Tomyl [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 12:02 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: tech support
>
>
>[This message was sent through the www-email gateway.]
>
>
>phone = 808-325-1919
>product = crw-1622
>problem = My Linux system will not detect this device
>processor = Pentium/586/K5/K6/686
>os = Other
>
>------------------------------------------------------------
>Server protocol: HTTP/1.0
>Remote host: s44.hai1.hialoha.net
>Remote IP address: 206.127.238.110
>
>
>
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From: Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FWD- Hardware site petitions Intel over SMP Celerons
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 15:41:46 -0700
bryan wrote:
>
> they never promised that SMP would work on a celeron and so they have
> no moral, ethical or legal obligation to continue to support it. it
> was a one-time gift (which is rare in this industry) and many
> hobbiests took advantage of it. I certainly did - I have 3 dual cel
> 300a (@450*2) systems at home. I love them. but I knew what I was
> getting into when I was tinkering around with it. if they disable
> this functionality, well - the market will do what the market will do.
> hi-end hobbiests will stop buying intel and the new K7 might just eat
> intel's lunch (we can only hope...).
>
Well... I recently got my foot wet with a dual Celerons 400a with ASUS
mobo and full U2WSCSI3. - not overclocked.
Love it. Thinking about getting another one.
The K-7 looks good, hope somebody will make a SMP mobo for it.
I like the AMD K-6 -2 3DNow, have one, but it runs hot without oc.
I've to use big, oc type heat sink/fan to cool it, or it'll becomes
unstable.
- the case already has two extra 8cm fans.
> the concept of petitioning intel is absurd. there's no hope of
> swaying their opinion and they need to do what they think is in their
> best econ. interests. they already know the negative PR they'll get -
> its a risk they may or may not be willing to take.
>
> and even if there is negative PR, its not relevant for 99% of the
> buyers out there, so it essentially will go unheard.
>
Probably. I was just passing info that some might be interested.
> my advice: don't buy a dual 370 board. buy a dual slot1 board and get
> slotkets and GET THE CPUS FIRST BEFORE COMMITTING TO SMP ON CELERONS!
> if, later on down the road, the cpus break and you can't get
> replacement SMP celerons anymore, then either sell the board or get p2
> or p3 chips - by the time your cel will crap out, the replacement
> p2/p3 chips will be just as cheap ;-)
>
Yes, My ASUS board is for dual Slot 1. I use the adaptor.
Alex Lam.
> this just isn't worth whining about. there are other more important
> things that need our whining, instead ;-)
>
> Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : -------------FWD----------------
> : Posted 30/06/99 8:27am by Mike Magee, The Register, London, UK.
>
> : Hardware site petitions Intel over SMP Celerons
>
> : A leading hardware site has asked Intel nicely not to implement a
> : plan to prevent the production of dual Celeron systems.
>
> : (See Intel could nip dual Celeron move in bud)
>
> : CPU Review has posted a petition to its site which can be viewed
> : here.
>
> : http://www.cpureview.com/smp_petition.html
>
> : At Computex in Taiwan at the beginning of the month, a motherboard
> : manufacturer
> : showed a design which allowed twin Celerons to run together.
>
> : The idea was originally invented by a Japanese engineer, and
> : according to reports,
> : Intel was unhappy with the idea, and therefore wanted to nobble such
> : designs by
> : disabling the feature that allowed for dual Celerons.
>
> : When we spoke to Intel earlier this week, a representative pointed
> : out that
> : implementing dual Celerons was not part of the original system spec
> : for the cut down
> : Pentium II processor.
>
> : CPU Review's petition reads: "We, the undersigned consumers hereby
> : respectfully
> : request that Intel does not disable the SMP capabilities of the
> : Celeron processors.
> : We believe that business users will use Pentium II, III and Xeon
> : processors for
> : production servers due to their large L2 cache sizes. Disabling SMP on
> : Celerons will
> : only hurt technical enthusiasts."
>
> : We don't know if Intel responds to petitions and it's an interesting
> : idea. �
> : ----------------------
> : Alex Lam.
> : --
> : *remove all the Xs (upper case X) if reply by e mail.
> : ** no more M$ Windoze.
>
> --
> Bryan [at] Grateful.Net
> http://www.Grateful.Net
--
*remove all the Xs (upper case X) if reply by e mail.
** no more M$ Windoze.
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From: Greg Bartels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: asus.support.english.mainboard.p2bx,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus
Subject: Re: UDMA-4, U/66 performance
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 16:34:10 -0400
Jonathan wrote:
>
> Actually I own a promise card. With a 5400 rpm drive I see NO
> difference, however, with the 7200 there is a mark difference in
> performance. It is not an incredible difference. The card let me
> install 4 more ide drives.
which promise card do you have?
if the Ultra 66, which drivers do you use?
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From: Matt Willis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: newbie: About LPR
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 17:52:52 -0400
You want something called ghostscript. Odds are that you have it
already. Ghostscript interprets postscript and can output appropriately
converted data to the printer. I am not a user of SuSE; but I expect it
has a good print tool. The one in redhat is called printtool. In
essence, you can edit the /etc/printcap file to call ghostscript
yourself, or you can use the graphical print tool to do it for you. The
latter is easier, unless you can find the solution on dejanews.
My printer is local, so I have no experience setting up TCP/IP printers.
Also, are you sure that your printer is compatible? Check this page:
http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/pht/printer_list.cgi
It can give you hints about how you'll have to set up ghostview. You can
try outputting raw data to the printer, and when it's set up right, put
the ghostscript commands in /etc/printcap.
Frederik Meerwaldt wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I'm a total newbie to Linux and I've got a question about LPR.
> I installed a TCP/IP connected Printer (via YaST (SuSE 6.0)).
> It's a non-postscript compatible InkJet Printer.
> If I click to Print from my Browser Window, I get a postscript file to
> my printer. Well, a printer driver is in the package and I can choose the
> driver when I configure a locally connected printer, but I can't choose such
> a driver when I install my printer. How can I install the printer driver?? I
> heard something about APMFILTER. I think I have to configure which printer
> driver I have to use with APMFILTER. But how???
> And BTW: I want to print normal textfiles too. Is there a command like Print
> or sth???
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Freddy
> --
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Frisch)
Subject: Re: Best PCI Soundcard?
Date: 30 Jun 1999 23:04:47 GMT
On 30 Jun 1999 22:16:37 GMT, Tabman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Do the Ensoniq AudioPCI cards come with a driver or utility that will
>allow it to work with DOS games in MSDOS 6.0 ?
If you want to run DOS games, you need a SB16, but who uses DOS anymore
and why are we discussing it in a Linux newsgroup?
Mike.
--
======================================================================
Mike Frisch Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Northstar Technologies WWW: http://saturn.tlug.org/~mfrisch
Newmarket, Ontario, CANADA
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From: Phil LoCascio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.dev.scsi
Subject: Re: SGI Visual Workstation 540 and Qlogic 1080....
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 19:58:01 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bryan wrote:
> curious: have you checked out www.linux.sgi.com ?
Most certainly! That is the reasoning behind my question. The procedure
they site
is for Redhat 6.0 with an IDE drive. OK. A patched kernel is provided for the
System board and nifty graphics chipset. OK.
But why does SCSI not work if it is a generic device?
Here in is my ignorance. Is there something strange with the SGI board ,
*beyond* the graphics etc...
which precludes the use of SCSI, especially since I read Qlogic 1080 is
normally supported?
Since they provide the source code and all, I have attempted to recreate
the patched kernel, to have a
starting point, and then try and see what happens with the SCSI.
I suppose the worst that can happen is that it hangs or cannot read any
media...?
Does this make more sense?
As I originally said, I could just buy an IDE drive, and forget about
SCSI until it is fixed,
but I am sure you know what it is like when you get a new machine, and that
too will take time!!
Cheers
PHiL
>
>
> In comp.os.linux.hardware Phil LoCascio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : Hi All,
>
> : OK, I just got my spanking new SGI VW 540, and after perusing the
> : available SGI resources, I find that SCSI is not supported yet. Since
> : the adpater is the Qlogic 1080, I assume that is the target. I read,
> : however, that the 1080 is supported for linux.
>
> : This is perplexing.
>
> : I have 2 questions to put me at ease, and to avoid the need for me to
> : buy an IDE drive to install Linux....
>
> : 1) Is there a definitive reason why SCSI will not work, other than noone
> : has had a go? I am no expert(on SCSI) but a technical decscription would
> : be helpful, in case I can help cobble a solution together.
>
> : 2) If there is a reason, how horrible is the solution likely to be?
>
> : If there is anyone from SGI reading this, some elucidation would
> : be nice, as I cannot *wait* to try this baby out!!
>
> : Cheers
>
> : PHiL
>
> --
> Bryan, http://www.Grateful.Net - Linux/Web-based Network Management
> ->->-> replies: you must remove the WUMPUS
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam Constabaris)
Subject: Re: S3 TRIO 3D
Date: 30 Jun 1999 22:41:56 GMT
Cyril Dominicy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Same Problem Here. I suppose it's the same card S3 Trio 3D/2X EN362.
: Can't get it to work better than VGA16.
: Any help would be much appreciated
Trio 3D is not supported for anything higher than VGA_16 in XFree
3.3.3.1 (except for #2).
1) XFree 3.3.4 is due out soon, will have trio3d support.
see www.xfree.org/releaseplans.html
2) Framebuffer! (www.uno.edu/~adamico/banshee)
(this works for trio 3d, although instructions
are for voodoo banshee)
3) Accelerated-X ($99)
-- www.xig.com
HTH,
AC
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From: "wrexy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SANE
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 09:18:46 +1000
Does anyone know the output of sane which is in .pnm file format will be
convert to the popular formats eg tiff, jpeg, ps?
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From: Superfueld Freaksicle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,alt.os.linux
Subject: can't load sb module into kernel
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 18:39:32 -0500
Greetings from Newbie land,
Trying to configure my SoundBlaster 16 to run on CalderaOL 2.2
i tried loading the sb module and got the following error message:
# insmod sb
/lib/modules/2.2.5/sound/sb.o: init_module: Device or resource busy
#
How do I figure out what device it's referring to and once i do, how do
i fix it?
(it's PnP, so i already set up isapnp.conf according to the default SB16
irq, i/o, dma settings)
As far as i can tell all that's really left to get the damn thimng
configured is to install the module into the kernel but this error is
really pissing me off
-Superfueld Freaksicle
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