Linux-Hardware Digest #636, Volume #14           Tue, 17 Apr 01 02:13:03 EDT

Contents:
  Anyone got Abit kt7a working w/o problems? ("D. Pearson")
  Re: Buying a Dell Laptop, compatability feedback please (Stuffed Crust)
  Re: Red Hat 7.1 (kernel 2.4.2) w/ VIA chipset (Stuffed Crust)
  Re: Anyone got Abit kt7a working w/o problems? (module)
  Re: Microsoft gets hard (Dennis Yelle)
  k7vza onboard sound support ("teknogeek")
  Re: CD Writer for Linux (Lucius Chiaraviglio)
  Re: Could Linux be used in this factory environment ? ("Monte Milanuk")
  Re: Anyone got Abit kt7a working w/o problems? (Joel Comeaux)
  Re: Modem trouble (David Efflandt)
  Re: FlexATX motherboard for Linux? (Brad Pepers)
  Maxtor 98196H8 Hard disk size wrong (Jon Williams)
  Re: Microsoft gets hard ("JS PL")
  Re: Anyone got Abit kt7a working w/o problems? ("Thomas Hoell")
  capacity of exabyte 8200? (Lupei Zhu)

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From: "D. Pearson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Anyone got Abit kt7a working w/o problems?
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 02:12:35 GMT

Previous config was Abit kt7 mb & Duron 700 cpu. Linux ran(runs) rock
solid on it. Upgraded mb and cpu to Abit kt7a & TBird 1.2 - 266fsb cpu.
It is extremely unstable under linux. Nothing else was changed. Same
periphs, same slots, same memory, video card, everything. Freezes
regularly. It's pretty much unusable. System is dual boot and runs NT
without problems. Not a single freeze. Might be the hardware but I don't
think so.  I haven't made any bios performance tweeks at all.
Everything's set conservatively. If anyone has an Abit kt7a running
without problems I would appreciate knowing about it. At least I would
know it could be done.

thanks,

-dep-


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From: Stuffed Crust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.dev.laptop
Subject: Re: Buying a Dell Laptop, compatability feedback please
Date: 17 Apr 2001 02:57:06 GMT

Harold Stevens US.972.952.3293 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm considering SuSE 7.1 on a Dell Latitude CPi A366XT. Since this is
> a configuration with a single removable bay for either a CD or floppy
> (but obviously not both simultaneously) I must consider how to get it
> to boot up the SuSE install. Maybe boot the install diskette, then do
> hotswap of floppy for the CD to continue the install (?). Or try SuSE
> boot from install CD option, if this Latitude BIOS permits (?).

Boot off of the CD.

 - Pizza [Happy owner of a CPi A266XT]
-- 
Solomon Peachy                                    pizzaATfucktheusers.org 
I ain't broke, but I'm badly bent.        
Patience comes to those who wait.
    ...It's not "Beanbag Love", it's a "Transanimate Relationship"...

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From: Stuffed Crust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat 7.1 (kernel 2.4.2) w/ VIA chipset
Date: 17 Apr 2001 02:59:19 GMT

Ian Pilcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Quite a bit has been written lately about problems with VIA chipsets,
> and I'm trying to figure out if upgrading to Red Hat 7.1, with kernel
> 2.4.2 is going to cause me problems.  Try as I might, I can't figure out
> exactly which VIA chips are having problems.

Alan Cox's latest 2.4.3-ac7 patch includes some rather "experimental,
please test" fixes for VIA chipset bugs.

It's not advisable that you use such bleeding edge kernels unless you
really need it..

 - Pizza
-- 
Solomon Peachy                                    pizzaATfucktheusers.org 
I ain't broke, but I'm badly bent.        
Patience comes to those who wait.
    ...It's not "Beanbag Love", it's a "Transanimate Relationship"...

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (module)
Subject: Re: Anyone got Abit kt7a working w/o problems?
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 03:01:01 -0000

"D. Pearson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Previous config was Abit kt7 mb & Duron 700 cpu. Linux ran(runs) rock
> solid on it. Upgraded mb and cpu to Abit kt7a & TBird 1.2 - 266fsb cpu.
> It is extremely unstable under linux. Nothing else was changed. Same
> periphs, same slots, same memory, video card, everything. Freezes
> regularly. It's pretty much unusable. System is dual boot and runs NT
> without problems. Not a single freeze. Might be the hardware but I don't
> think so.  I haven't made any bios performance tweeks at all.
> Everything's set conservatively. If anyone has an Abit kt7a running
> without problems I would appreciate knowing about it. At least I would
> know it could be done.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> -dep-
> 

I just recently installed slackware on a ABIT KT7A-Raid with AMD Duron-800. 
So far i have had absolutely no problems system wise.

--module

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From: Dennis Yelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.arch,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft gets hard
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:19:31 -0700

JS PL wrote:
> 
> "Chad Everett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Sun, 15 Apr 2001 22:06:23 GMT, Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >"JS PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >>
> > >> "unicat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >>
> > >> > Of course there's a name for companies that trusted Microsoft as a
> > >> busniess
> > >> > partner...extinct!
> > >>
> > >> Which one is extinct? There's about 32,000 Certified Business Partners
> > >> Organizations. And about 6 million developers using Microsoft
> Development
> > >> tools.
> > >> http://www.microsoft.com/business/partners/
> > >> Which one became extinct?  Ass.
> > >>
> > >> You really shouldn't Drink & Write.
> >
> > Of course those numbers supplied by Microsoft on the page you referenced
> > is a lie.  Try going to the link on that page that let's you find a
> > Microsoft "partner" and see what happens.
> 
> OK, I come to a few pages which lets me narrow the big list:
> 
> United States | English | California |

When I clicked the first link directly under 
the big 'Choose a Partner' bar,
which was:  'Microsoft Certified Partners'
I got a page that said: 
    Sorry, there is no microsoft.com Web page
    matching your request. 

I think that was what he was talking about.

Dennis Yelle
-- 
I am a computer programmer and I am looking for a job.
There is a link to my resume here:  
http://table.jps.net/~vert/

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From: "teknogeek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: k7vza onboard sound support
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 03:20:12 GMT

i'm considering buying a k7vza motherboard (t-bird). does anyone know if the
onboard sound is supported under linux? i'm not sure what the sound chipset
is for that board.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lucius Chiaraviglio)
Subject: Re: CD Writer for Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 04:07:42 GMT

Charles Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Where do you go to find CD-RWs that will work with Linux?   ( Intel
>Pentium II, 233 MHz,   Redhat Linux 6.2. ,  Purpose: system backup &
>recovery, soley. )
>
>The local CompUSA & internet searches show reveal several reasonable
>Windows-compatible choices, but none that I've seen claim that they will
>will work with Linux.

        Well, you might be in luck.  WARNING:  I have not tried this
myself.  Check out the following web site (warning:  long URL -- may break):

http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/cdrecord.html

or stitch together the 2 pieces in case your newsreader makes a hash of the
whole URL given above:

http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/
employees/joerg.schilling/private/cdrecord.html

This lists 23 supported CD writers.

-- 
Lucius Chiaraviglio
New e-mail address is approximately:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To get the exact address:                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Replace indicated characters with common 4-letter word meaning the same thing
and remove underscores (Spambots of Doom, take that!).

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From: "Monte Milanuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Could Linux be used in this factory environment ?
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 04:28:40 GMT


Charles Lyttle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> However there are a number of manufacturers who make PC equals for the
> factory floor. They are much lower cost than traditional factory
> hardware, especially HP or Sun systems. These systems cost lots more
> than CompUSA trash, but still are cost effective, *IF* they have a good
> OS loaded. Linux does have competitors in this market, QNX being one.
> But the cost of a single BSOD is high enough to keep Windows out.

I'm not so sure about that.  When I left a steel mill in early 1999, the big
thing the automation vendors were starting to push was 'SoftPLC', where the
idea was that for normal stuff that doesn't require high speed i/o and
distributed processing, rather than having dedicated racks of special
processors, they could have cards connected to an x86 PC and have the CPU do
the crunching -- kinda like a Winmodem, but a WinPLC, since the operating
system they were touting for this task was WinNT4.  Scary.

Monte






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From: Joel Comeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anyone got Abit kt7a working w/o problems?
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:51:11 -0500

Mr. Pearson,
  Five minutes ago, I bought a KT7A, should be here in a few days.  Prior to
ordering it, I did some pretty thorough Linux compatability checking
(hopefully).  Some things to check:  I've read that if you are using two
dimms, that you should use the 1st and 3rd slot...that is some note I found
from the Abit engineers.  Also, supposedly, the ASUS V7700 video card is a
no-no with this board.

The KT7A does *not* support ECC memory, in case that is what you're using.
(http://lhd.datapower.com/db/dispproduct.php3?DISP?2636)

Please let me know about your progress, as I'd like to be in the know when I
set mine up in a few days.  I'm so stoked, this is my first "built for Linux
only" box, and my first time building my own.

Hope this helped.

Joel Comeaux

"D. Pearson" wrote:

> Previous config was Abit kt7 mb & Duron 700 cpu. Linux ran(runs) rock
> solid on it. Upgraded mb and cpu to Abit kt7a & TBird 1.2 - 266fsb cpu.
> It is extremely unstable under linux. Nothing else was changed. Same
> periphs, same slots, same memory, video card, everything. Freezes
> regularly. It's pretty much unusable. System is dual boot and runs NT
> without problems. Not a single freeze. Might be the hardware but I don't
> think so.  I haven't made any bios performance tweeks at all.
> Everything's set conservatively. If anyone has an Abit kt7a running
> without problems I would appreciate knowing about it. At least I would
> know it could be done.
>
> thanks,
>
> -dep-


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Modem trouble
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 05:03:56 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:01:46 +0200, Krstanovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have Rockvell 56k ISA modem.It works on IRQ#3 and COM2 port under Win Me
> and DOS,but will not work under Red Hat 7
> Help me to configure it.Without the modem Linux is not so useful,in my
> opinion :)
> Thanx!

Does ttyS01 show up in your boot messages?  If so, try connecting minicom 
to /dev/ttyS1 and see if it responds to AT commands.

If not, then maybe it is a PnP modem and you need to:

pnpdump > /etc/isapnp.conf
Then edit that file for your port and irq.

-- 
David Efflandt  (Reply-To is valid)  http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/  http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/  http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/

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From: Brad Pepers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FlexATX motherboard for Linux?
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 05:03:56 GMT

Simon South wrote:

> Does anyone have any knowledge of which FlexATX motherboards work well
> with Linux?
> 
> My goal is to assemble a very small, very quiet Linux box, most likely
> using one of the newer VIA CyrixIII processors and Red Hat 7.0.  There
> are a number of i810e-based motherboards that seem perfect for the job,
> and the on-board components (video, LAN) seem to be supported under
> Linux, but I haven't had much luck tracking down user accounts of which
> boards work and which don't.

I've been trying to do the same and am using the ECS P6IWP-Fe board with 
mixed success.  Its really strange.  At first it was working fine using Red 
Hat 7.0 but I was having all sorts of problems with other systems (SuSe 
7.1, Windows ME, Windows 98, ...).  The problems were always random 
power-offs but with different causes.  Sometimes it was during the boot 
process.  For a while it was exactly 10 minutes after the system was turned 
on.  Now the original Red Hat 7.0 system that was working fine is acting up 
just like the others.  Another *very* strange case while running Windows 98 
is that it would turn off anytime I ejected a CD-ROM!

But I do have 1 system running Windows ME that works like a charm.  Of 
course it was the first purchased and tested before we got 8 others!  The 
problem sounds very similar to the Tyan Tomcat S2420 problem mentioned.  
Its odd though since the Linux Store sells a system based on the Tyan 
Tomcat S2420 motherboard running Red Hat 6.2 and you would think it must be 
working for them!

So for now it seems to be a really hit and miss thing.  Please let me know 
if you find anything out.

PS: the one area I was testing was regarding the A20 Gate option in the 
BIOS.   There was some email about it and some notes on the Linux kernel 
mailing list that sounded interesting.  I was speculating that the code in 
the kernel that setup the A20 gate was somehow messing up the power 
management and causing a shutdown.  At one point on Red Hat 7.0 I ran a 
loop showing the date and this ran fine for a long period of time but the 
second I stopped it, the power went off.

-- 
Brad Pepers
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Jon Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Maxtor 98196H8 Hard disk size wrong
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:17:41 -0400
Reply-To: Jonathan Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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I have a box with an FIC FD-11 (with via ide) mobo that can't seem to get
my ~80 gig disk to detect bigger than ~33 gigs.

I'm running 2.4.2-ac4. The disk is set as slave on my secondary ide chain
with a ata33 cdrom running as master. Any help would be greatly
appreciated. I can probably get any other info needed.

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From: "JS PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.arch,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft gets hard
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:42:06 -0400


"David Ehrens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:aFHC6.18762$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "JS PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> ...
> > That looks pretty proportional to their claim of 32,000 worldwide!
>
> Microsoft partners include companies who have several MS-certified
> (MCSE, MCP, MSD) employees on staff, or who at one point were interested
> in riding the Microsoft wave. I am one of the many former "paper"
> partners that MS had at one point. The advantages to these programs were
> minimal, aside from the legitimacy that certification confers on
> individual technicians. For instance, we had to pay distributor prices
> 5-10x higher than Compaq, Dell, and Gateway for product, were
> continually beat up by educational "partners" who were selling product
> illegally at academic discount prices, and as a company outside an urban
> hub, were routinely passed over (in referrals) in favor of preferred
> partners in major cities, in some cases in other states. It was a big
> disappointment. I know others who bailed out of various MS programs.
>
> I don't care if Microsoft can prove they have 500,000,000 partners.
> Their allegiances lie with companies in their size and weight class, not
> small consulting or integration outfits.

So before we get away from the assinine Linvocate statement that "there is
ONE word for a Microsoft Business partner, extinct"
Since you actually are or "were" classified as a Microsoft Business Partner,
I can safely assume that your now "extinct" like the other 32,000 that he
claims are now extinct, since all business partners of Microsoft are
supposedly EXTINCT?   Or could it be that there are really NO business
partners who are extinct, or such a small percentage that it mirrors the
natural rate of extinction?

You see, it's these stupid assed statements that will be the death of Linux.
Normally when someone is choosing between two people to do business with,
they WON'T choose the guy that's bad mouthing and making proposterous
statements against the competitor.  Statements like, "there's one word
for......." show nothing but immaturity and poor judgement. Not good
qualities.



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From: "Thomas Hoell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anyone got Abit kt7a working w/o problems?
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:41:31 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "D. Pearson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Previous config was Abit kt7 mb & Duron 700 cpu. Linux ran(runs) rock
> solid on it. Upgraded mb and cpu to Abit kt7a & TBird 1.2 - 266fsb cpu.
> It is extremely unstable under linux. Nothing else was changed. Same
> periphs, same slots, same memory, video card, everything. Freezes
> regularly. It's pretty much unusable. System is dual boot and runs NT
> without problems. Not a single freeze. Might be the hardware but I don't
> think so.  I haven't made any bios performance tweeks at all.
> Everything's set conservatively. If anyone has an Abit kt7a running
> without problems I would appreciate knowing about it. At least I would
> know it could be done.

VIA KT133, right? If you're running a nvidia graphics card, there may be
problems. 

A solution may be forcing down AGP4x to AGP2x. But it would be helpful to
know which graphics card you are really using ;)

Regards
Thomas

-- 
As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not
certain, and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality.
                -- Albert Einstein

GnuPG-Key 0x0FFE104B

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From: Lupei Zhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: capacity of exabyte 8200?
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:49:18 -0700


Hi,

  I have an Exabyte 8200 tape drive, connected to a PC running Linux
RH7.0 and Solaris 2.6. Under solaris, it can hold up to 2.3G. but when I
try to dump a 1.7G file system using this:
dump -0 -f /dev/st0 /
I got a message saying the dump  is estimated to be on 40 volumes
(tapes) and I was soon prompted to put the second tape. I tried
/dev/nst0, /dev/st0a, ..., no luck. Can anyone tell me what I need to
do?

  thanks.

  Lupei



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