Linux-Hardware Digest #425, Volume #13           Tue, 15 Aug 00 00:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  Re: SIIG SC-PE4612 UltraATA 66 PCI ("Jake")
  Re: LS-120??? (Dances With Crows)
  Re: Linux on AMD (blowfish)
  How to install multi-soundcards in one Linux box ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: converting win partition to Linux...safely? ("Charles Sullivan")
  Re: Linux on AMD (blowfish)
  Re: Caldera and SCO, was Linux on AMD (blowfish)
  Install into two physical disks? ("Tim Murray")
  Re: Dual processor board? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Dual processor board? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: SoundBlaster AudioPCI 128D (David Shochat)
  Re: Caldera and SCO, was Linux on AMD (blowfish)
  Re: SoundBlaster AudioPCI 128D (Dances With Crows)

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From: "Jake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SIIG SC-PE4612 UltraATA 66 PCI
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 03:17:43 GMT

Noisey/bad cable? Try swapping in a new UATA/66 cable.

Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> Using the latest 2.2.16 IDE patches, I have managed to get my SIIG,
> UltraATA/66 controller working running 1.25 bios but I get
> this error under heavy load:
>
> > hde: timeout waiting for DMA
> > ide_dmaproc: chipset supported ide_dma.timeout func only: 14
>
> The machine will just lock up.  Usually, I see this under heavy disk
> activities while running some CPU intensive program.  If I use the PIO
> mode, the system is fine.
>
> Any ideas?  I may take a stab at looking through the kernel but if
> anyone has seen this or have an idea, please let me know....
>
> Thanks!
> Dave
>
> PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
> PIIX4: chipset revision 1
> PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
>     ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
>     ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA
> HPT366: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 68
> HPT366: chipset revision 1
> HPT366: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
>     ide2: BM-DMA at 0xb400-0xb407, BIOS settings: hde:DMA, hdf:pio
> HPT366: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 69
> HPT366: chipset revision 1
> HPT366: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
>     ide3: BM-DMA at 0xc000-0xc007, BIOS settings: hdg:DMA, hdh:pio
> hda: Memorex CDRW-2216, ATAPI CDROM drive
> hdb: LS-120 VER5 00 UHD Floppy, ATAPI FLOPPY drive
> hdc: CD-ROM 48X/AKU, ATAPI CDROM drive
> hde: Maxtor 54098U8, ATA DISK drive
> hdg: Maxtor 91024U4, ATA DISK drive
> ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
> ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
> ide2 at 0xac00-0xac07,0xb002 on irq 5
> ide3 at 0xb800-0xb807,0xbc02 on irq 5
> hde: Maxtor 54098U8, 39082MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=79406/16/63, UDMA(66)
> hdg: Maxtor 91024U4, 9765MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=19841/16/63, UDMA(33)
>
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: LS-120???
Date: 15 Aug 2000 03:23:13 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 01:46:40 GMT, Dennis J. Tuchler wrote:
>How is Linux with the LS-120 floppy drive?  Will Linux accommodate its
>file system; can you format it to 120MB with Linux?

No problem.  LS-120s are supported and have been since over a year ago.
LS-120 disks are usually formatted with FAT16, which Linux has been able
to handle for a very long time.  You can, of course, format an LS-120
disk with ext2 or HFS without any problems, and using the full 120M is
never a problem.

Basically, you do:
  mount -t vfat /dev/hdX /mnt/ls120
since an LS-120 is an IDE device.  HTH,

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /  Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com     /   condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/           ==Henry Spencer

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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux on AMD
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:25:01 -0700

Craig Bingman wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, blowfish  <..> wrote:
> >You know what?
> >
> >Actually it's very easy to show a newbie how to build from source.
> 
> Your comment presumes that there is someone to show the newbie how to
> build from source.   In many cases, there isn't.  There certainly wasn't
> anyone holding my hand when I first installed it, several years ago.
> 
All the  newbie has to do is ask.

Oh. BTW. I never tell any newbiw to RTFM like those "guru". I try to help them to
solve their problem.

For the record. I NEVER had any formal computer/programming trainning. It's just a
hobby started many years ago. My background has nothing to do with cs, or ee, or
math. And I figured out everything all by myself. And I know those fscking manuels
are just that. FM. Most are outdated.

> Craig
> 
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]   <  New Primary E-Mail Address
> http://fpage1.ba.best.com/~cbingman

-- 
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer user.
  (Have Fun with geek's culture:-Version
2.4-pre-release99999-test-1234567.pre-beta5000.)
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his hands,
  lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his time.
  But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which takes
  Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
  geek + vi | ~/emacs ==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
  newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSzzzzz!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female deer.)
RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
  Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A needle
pulling thread.)
  lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That will bring
us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh.
  (c)Copy Righted by Alex / blowfish-2000. All Rights Reserved.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How to install multi-soundcards in one Linux box
Date: 15 Aug 2000 03:28:38 GMT

Hello guys :

        I am trying to install multi-soundcards in one linux box.
        Does anyone have this experience or any advice?
        Thanks in advance.

        PS. My purpose is to setup a multi-channel audio encoder running 
Real Producer.

        KEn @ Taipei , Taiwan

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From: "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: converting win partition to Linux...safely?
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 03:26:52 GMT

Christian Huebner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Tony Curtis wrote:
> >
> > >> On 14 Aug 2000 00:45:47 GMT,
> > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti) said:
> >
> > > I have a win partition that I'd like to scrap and
> > > convert to a ext2 filesystem in a safe manner such that,
> > > assuming I don't screw up, I can leave my linux
> > > partitions intact.  Can this be done?
> >
> > Yes, just
> >
> >     mkfs
> >
> > with the appropriate filesystem type.
>
> Thats not sufficient AFAIR. You need to fdisk the disk first
> and change the partition type to Linux Ext2.

At least with older version, Linux never bothered to look at the
partition type for anything other than the printout by fdisk, but
it will be helpful to change it if only to avoid later confusion.
You tell it what's on the partition with the entry in your
/etc/fstab file.


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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux on AMD
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:29:14 -0700

Bob Hauck wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 14 Aug 2000 13:29:24 -0700, blowfish
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >Bob Hauck wrote:
> >>
> 
> >> >Do you think Linux distro like Redhat really any better than Windoz?
> >>
> >> Why are you here, instead of one of the advocacy groups where this crap
> >> belongs?
> >>
> >Ouch. A RedHead gets hurt.
> 
> I don't use Red Hat, and I'm tired of your trolling.
> 
GNU/Debian... Right?

You can choose to ignore my posts, or kill file my posts.

The options are yours. But this is a public, open forum. I don't like a lot of
things others are posting too. But it's freedom of speech. So. I live with it. 
;-)
> *PLONK*
> 
> --
>  -| Bob Hauck
>  -| To Whom You Are Speaking
>  -| http://www.haucks.org/

-- 
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer user.
  (Have Fun with geek's culture:-Version
2.4-pre-release99999-test-1234567.pre-beta5000.)
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his hands,
  lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his time.
  But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which takes
  Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
  geek + vi | ~/emacs ==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
  newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSzzzzz!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female deer.)
RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
  Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A needle
pulling thread.)
  lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That will bring
us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh.

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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.sco.misc
Subject: Re: Caldera and SCO, was Linux on AMD
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:38:25 -0700

Bill Vermillion wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Tony Lawrence  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >However, I think the purchase could mean very good things
> >for Caldera- they pick up a lot of engineering talent, and
> >of course source code for things Linux currently doesn't
> >have -
> 
> Well part of this is exactly why Love left Novell and founded
> Caldera.  He believed in Unixware, and He couldn't get those who were
> so enamored of the Novell way to use the Unixware material they acquired
> from USL to even look at it, so he started Caldera.   That makes Calerda
> one of the early players in the Linux world - and the plus is that
> it was founded by those who believed in Unixware
> 
Yeah. I understand that Caldera is one of the early Linux player. Like Slackware
and SuSE.

> Love left in 1994.  It was a year later, 1995, when Novell sold the
> USL to SCO.  More than a few left Novell when the Netware side came
> on so strong against Unixare.
> 
I had very limited experience with Novell. Tried SCO for a little while. It seems
to me that SCO had always been kind of funky.  Maybe they made a lot of decisions
on the Santa Cruz Beach while surfing, instead of in the broadroom.

> This is just my opinion/speculation, but given Love's past like of
> Unixware and the fight's he fought for it at Novell, I suspect he's
> had his eye on CSO for a while. I don't know if he was part of the
> group that casued Novell acquire USL in the first place, but I
> wouldn't be surprised.   THere's more to Caldera than 'just another
> Linux company'.
> 
I know, Linux is just part of Caldera.

> I just went to check something and see the SCO Web site has
> reverted to what it was last week instead of the SCO/Caldera
> web page that came up eariler today.   This has to be confusing for
> all concerned.
> 
>From what I've read. What they have released on their press release to the IT rags
are different to what they talked about their plans are, to the financial news
reporters.

It's confusing as hell.

> >As to being broken, I have had contrary  ...
> 
> I had the impression from the other poster that he meant 'broke' in
> terms of no money.  Ah - such is this language we call English.
> 
My apology. I should have used the word "bankrupted" instead of the word "broke."

> --
> Bill Vermillion -   bv @ wjv . com

-- 
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer user.
  (Have Fun with geek's culture:-Version
2.4-pre-release99999-test-1234567.pre-beta5000.)
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his hands,
  lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his time.
  But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which takes
  Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
  geek + vi | ~/emacs ==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
  newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSzzzzz!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female deer.)
RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
  Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A needle
pulling thread.)
  lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That will bring
us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh.

------------------------------

From: "Tim Murray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.list
Subject: Install into two physical disks?
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 23:38:15 -0400

I have an old PC I'd like to install the server version of Red Hat 6.2 =
on.  The manual says I need six partitions totaling 1.616 gigs. What I =
have are two 1.2 gig drives.=20

Do all the partitions have to be on one drive, or can I split them up? =
Yes, I know that even the two drives don't leave me with a lot of =
breathing room, but this only to play with for the learning experience. =
Maybe later I will commit a more serious computer to it.

TIA.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Dual processor board?
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 03:29:44 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> > > It would be good if someone could look into this. I did a long
search
> > > for similar problems, and found that it is a recurring problem for
all
> > > i840 SuperMicro boards, not just in linux, but other o/s's as
well. In
> > > particular, this one message occurs when logging does not die
instantly:
> > > unexpected IRQ vector 217 on CPU#0!
> > >
> > > It can also occur on CPU#1, but the 217 is consistent in all
cases. This
> > > message has been reported on both IDE-only machines, and SCSI
machines.
> > > Failure occurs under either rapid i/o of many small files, or a
few
> > > large files, or mount/umount, using any filesystem type or driver.
I can
> > > repeat the problem via rapid mount/umount of the cdrom. The
filesystem
> > > driver that originates the problem is the first to die, but even
if, for
> > > example, the scsi is still alive, it will also die shortly
thereafter
> > > (seconds to live)...sync is not possible, even with magic-sysrq.
> > >
> >
> > I have had linux-2.4.0-test5 OOPS on me with this board under the
following
> > circumstances: - using APIC - running fsck on my USB ZIP 250 (ext2
> > filesystem)
> >
> > I didn't get anything in the logs, but there was an "Aiiee!! Kernel
Panic!"
> > at line 614 (?) in sched.c that was dumped to the console, and
something
> > about an interrupt being removed??
> >
> > I had thought that this was USB related, because the USB / SCSI
subsystems
> > seem a bit flaky, but then they ARE resting on a less-than-solid
mobo
> > foundation at the moment ... ;-)
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
> It took about a month of mysterious crashes before I finally had the
> unexpected IRQ show up. Running with kernel option "noapic" has shown
me
> that the AIC7xxx driver is extremely stable. The filesystem access
> itself is absurdly fast, although with noapic the machine becomes
> unresponsive during this heavy i/o. Even the dual PII450 here will far
> outperform the dual 800 for responsiveness (at least with noapic going
> on the 800). Both use AIC7xxx. I think you'll find your system will
fail
> even when using IDE if you rapidly mount and umount.
>


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Dual processor board?
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 03:30:35 GMT

Hi,
I have examined the source code for the "Unknown IO-APIC" messages that
I see with my Supermicro i840 (PIIIDME) board:

The version integer is 0x00170020 for CPU #0 and 0x00178020 for CPU #1.
The 0x0017 is OK, and says that the chip supports IRQ 0 through to IRQ
23. The 0x20 is the APIC version, and 0x20 is too new for Linux to fully
support. The interesting feature is the "8" in the CPU #1 number; this
used to be a reserved bit, but now says that the APIC supports "IRQ
assertion" from PCI devices.

In other words, it's just new functionality so I don't see why there's a
problem...

Chris


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: David Shochat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SoundBlaster AudioPCI 128D
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 03:40:10 GMT

Robert Hampf wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> h�lt �essu fram:
> :
> : Thanks. I looked around deja, but haven't really found the answer. I do
> : have sndconfig. As several others have reported, it thinks everything is
> : fine, but no sound comes out. My guess is that the es1371 kernel module
> : that comes with RedHat 6.2 is no good. What kernel version did you
> : compile the driver into? Maybe I need a newer kernel (I have 2.2.14-5).
> 
> Go to www.kernel.org and get the newest 2.2.* kernel.  (There is a
> security problem in the Red Hat kernel so you'd better get the newest
> anyway.)  Read the Kernel-HOWTO.  If you know all the parts of your
> machine it shouldn't be difficult.  In order to keep it simple I never
> use modules but some do because they think that is simplier.  The
> es1371 is an ordinary driver so you don't need to get any separate
> drivers (like Alsa).
> 
> rh

Ok, I've tried upgrading the kernel to 2.2.16-3 (using RedHat's
binaries) and since that didn't work (same symptoms as before) I
followed the above suggestion and rebuilt the 2.2.16 kernel from source
with es1371 support built in (rather than module). This doesn't seem to
work either. When I try following the steps in the Sound HOWTO, I get to
the point where it says to
cat /dev/sndstat and I get:
cat: /dev/sndstat: No such device
even though it shows up when I do ls -l /dev/sndstat.
crw-r--r--    1 root     sys       14,   6 Apr 17  1999 /dev/sndstat

When I run sndconfig, I get new error messages since it seems to be
trying to load it as a module (does sndconfig only work when the sound
driver is a module?)

If anyone can give me a clue on this it would be great. Right now it
seems intractible.
-- David

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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.sco.misc
Subject: Re: Caldera and SCO, was Linux on AMD
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:41:23 -0700

Bill Vermillion wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bill Vermillion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >I just went to check something and see the SCO Web site has
> >reverted to what it was last week instead of the SCO/Caldera
> >web page that came up eariler today.   This has to be confusing for
> >all concerned.
> 
> Ah.  The page I saw this AM as the default is now linked on the
> original home page as "New Web Sites".   That was a surprise when I
> was trying to hunt for something and it had all changed.
> 
That's part of the beauty, or the curse of the web. Instant changes/updates at a
moment's notice. :-)

> --
> Bill Vermillion -   bv @ wjv . com

-- 
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer user.
  (Have Fun with geek's culture:-Version
2.4-pre-release99999-test-1234567.pre-beta5000.)
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his hands,
  lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his time.
  But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which takes
  Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
  geek + vi | ~/emacs ==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
  newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSzzzzz!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female deer.)
RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
  Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A needle
pulling thread.)
  lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That will bring
us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: SoundBlaster AudioPCI 128D
Date: 15 Aug 2000 04:00:58 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 03:40:10 GMT, David Shochat wrote:
>Ok, I've tried upgrading the kernel to 2.2.16-3 (using RedHat's
>binaries) and since that didn't work (same symptoms as before) I
>followed the above suggestion and rebuilt the 2.2.16 kernel from source
>with es1371 support built in (rather than module). This doesn't seem to
>work either. When I try following the steps in the Sound HOWTO, I get to
>the point where it says to
>cat /dev/sndstat and I get:
>cat: /dev/sndstat: No such device
>If anyone can give me a clue on this it would be great. Right now it
>seems intractible.

The es1371 does *NOT* have /dev/sndstat, because of weirdness in that
chip's internals.  This is remarked on in the README, and in the
es1371.c source itself.  Don't worry about it.  And yes, sndconfig
assumes that the driver is compiled as a module.

Can you do a "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp0" and get the speakers to
produce horrible static?  If so, that's a start....

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /  Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com     /   condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/           ==Henry Spencer

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